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Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hello all, it sounds like most people have had a good weekend and today is a busy one for all.

Sadsy - How did your job go? I hope you will not be naughty and visit us while working! :o
It was lovely to read that you had such a good weekend with the children, sunday sounded like great fun. Arwen so obviously adores you. You mention that Louise wants to have her leaflet back, I wonder, as it had so many numbers on it, whether you could send it enclosing a frank letter from yourself, questioning where you fit into it all? It certainly gives you the opportunity to raise the question as to why she has it and how concerned Luke was to have taken it in the first place. She may not even respond, but you might feel that you have had your say. You can be honest with her about your short comings and it might give her a little insight into your world and what was going on for you, without any animosity.

Just a thought ;)

Sparklinglime, hope you are back at home, safe and sound and curled up in cosy chair with lime and soda! Look after yourself.

Paulasgems, how was Harry Potter? I heard it is incredibly long!

Posted on: July 21, 2009 - 12:41pm
sadsy

Oh no I have been naughty! Am at work!
Anna, you know everything. Spooky.

Back tonight.

Sy

Posted on: July 21, 2009 - 1:43pm
sadsy

Sparkling, help, I can't find it.

Very sorry, I used it as it was in reply to one where you had included it.

Now I can't find it! Can Louise change it as moderator? I'm not on till 7 now.

sy

Posted on: July 21, 2009 - 1:49pm
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi it has been changed, I think Anna did it for you, don't worry guys :)

Posted on: July 21, 2009 - 2:27pm
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi, yeah I did take it out! Sorry I meant to mention it but got called away from my desk.

Sadsy you are SO naughty!!! :lol: :lol:

I hope it is all going well and you have a good eve. :)

Posted on: July 21, 2009 - 2:44pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

He's missing us!!

Thank you for that. I know it's daft, and I don't really mind people knowing my name - not like it's unique!! :roll:

Xray was ok - she wasn't young, she wasn't slim and was ever so kind. I didn't worry at any point - but was glad I took the crutches in as my leg locked!

Done...

I do hope you've had a good day sy...

Posted on: July 21, 2009 - 5:47pm
sadsy

Sparkling,
you've been really brave today, having your x-ray. And your fear was realised with your leg locking!

How does it happen, the locking thing. I don't understand it?
Does it come on in a certain position, gradually or suddenly. Is it painfull to move? Will it move at all?
Is it under the kneecap where the crossing ligaments are?
I remember it having a link with stress. What did the x-ray people say?
How did you get home?

I can imagine how you would always have a fear of it happening, must be awful.

Your quality of life would be so much better if we could fix it.

Can you give yourself a treat tonight? You have earned it for sure.

Missing you for sure today.
sy

Posted on: July 21, 2009 - 6:49pm
sadsy

Thank you all for thinking of me at work :)
I'm so lucky to have met you all. (I'm not leaving you by the way, in case you got your hopes up!)

A few missing faces at work, the corporate grim reaper came whilst I was away and they have been made redundant.
One was my boss' boss.

Next round of redundancies next week.

I was really useless at work today, somehow my manager knew beforehand and gave me light duties.

Really nice to be back in the team again. Two ladies took me shopping at lunchtime, they were browsing the sales.
One has sadly just lost her father. So sorry for her. She not seem to grieve yet. I tease her and ask her if she can take me down catfood isle again in Morrisons (it was torture before) others in team abandoned me to my fate, 15 mins of choices of rabbit or chicken with liver were too much for me...

Lady who sit next to me, her auntie has just died and she was away at funeral. Hope to see her tomorrow. She teach me to make spaghetti bolognese when I was at home with email recipe. She is made of moral fibre and is a giant, even though she is really tiny. Hope she ok.

Very tired on way in, shake my head to stay awake in car.

Got counsellor later and kids call in a mo. Have to eat late tonight. Supposed to have done an anxiety log, I'll take laptop I guess?

I have got a blank in my memory to do with Louise' call to my mum yesterday. Mum has told me, but I have no memory of the details? Where has the memory gone?

sy

Posted on: July 21, 2009 - 7:21pm
sadsy

[Whispers] Sparkling,
how do you say

Quote:
Ysbyty Penrhos

?

sy

Posted on: July 21, 2009 - 7:27pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Ysbyty - hospital
us - but -ee (the ee bit isn't quite right, perhaps an elongated first bit of in)

Penrhos Stanley is just the name.

Pen - as in biro pen means top
rhos - as in ross when I look it up rhos shows up as moore

Posted on: July 21, 2009 - 8:00pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

sadsy wrote:
Thank you all for thinking of me at work :)
I'm so lucky to have met you all. (I'm not leaving you by the way, in case you got your hopes up!)

A few missing faces at work, the corporate grim reaper came whilst I was away and they have been made redundant.
One was my boss' boss.

Next round of redundancies next week.

I was really useless at work today, somehow my manager knew beforehand and gave me light duties.

Really nice to be back in the team again. Two ladies took me shopping at lunchtime, they were browsing the sales.
One has sadly just lost her father. So sorry for her. She not seem to grieve yet. I tease her and ask her if she can take me down catfood isle again in Morrisons (it was torture before) others in team abandoned me to my fate, 15 mins of choices of rabbit or chicken with liver were too much for me...

Lady who sit next to me, her auntie has just died and she was away at funeral. Hope to see her tomorrow. She teach me to make spaghetti bolognese when I was at home with email recipe. She is made of moral fibre and is a giant, even though she is really tiny. Hope she ok.

Very tired on way in, shake my head to stay awake in car.

Got counsellor later and kids call in a mo. Have to eat late tonight. Supposed to have done an anxiety log, I'll take laptop I guess?

I have got a blank in my memory to do with Louise' call to my mum yesterday. Mum has told me, but I have no memory of the details? Where has the memory gone?

sy

I should imagine that memory has been taken up by work, and the fact that Louise's phone call wasn't a positive one.

This page is flapping up and down now as I type! I'm sure it gives me a headache. Children have a two hour timeslot with their father - 6 - 8pm. Youngest saying it should be until 9pm as its holidays - they're not back yet, so he could have got his point across to his father!

Posted on: July 21, 2009 - 8:03pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Ah.

Spoke to soon. They're back :D

Wonder how many hours he'll give them this holiday (meow)

Posted on: July 21, 2009 - 8:05pm
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

WELL DONE to sparkling for getting the Xray done. How scary that your leg locked. Hope you got home without too much trouble.

WELL DONE to Sy for getting the first day at work done, that was the biggest hurdle and now you have to re-bond with the team, I guess

HOPING that Paulasgems has survived Harry Potter!

Posted on: July 21, 2009 - 9:10pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

I took crutches in with the Xray - thank goodness! She was so kind though, I didn't get worked up at all. :D As I was leaving, a woman walked into the Xray dept carrying crutches - I wondered if she had the same issues!

I'm sure Harry P will be brilliant!

I won't go to watch it incase my leg locks and I have a panic attack! Crutches helped today though... I've told the children we'll get the DVD and have a movie night - My daughter and I really love Harry P!

I do hope Sy is ok...

Posted on: July 21, 2009 - 9:40pm
Pansy

:cry: not good day
film & meal ok, but when we got back 13 yr old handful, rude! she can be like that alot!! but has been ok since he left.

Then bit later wanted to know about Dad, can she go see him (was cross with me for telling off for rudness) at same time was cross with him & stupid woman, as she puts it. To cut a to detailed story somewhat shorter! A series of texts then started to Dad which ended up with me needing to phone him, as texts with her were getting to complicated.

I had to explain to him that she was very upset because she wants to see him now, not in 4 wks or whenever, & that I had told her 'to go there would be to expensive & complicted at the moment' & told him that she & other two not understand things, & have many questions & that it is not fair that they have to wait so long. He cant come he has no money, but it is he who has put himself in that position.

Anyway, I done a bad thing....I got so upset after talking to him that I ended up being angry that I have been left with all this to sort out, all this upset of theirs & my upst too. I texted him after, to remind him of what mess & pain he has left us with & finished off by saying he is a selfish F...ing B...ard & does not deserve any respect because he has not earnt it! :x

oh dear :shock: I shouldn't have done that. I have been so good up to now, not said bad thing once!
Only quite honestly I dont care about what I said it's true! Maybe he should know that.
I am in bits :cry: he has hurt me so much.
Oh sorry everyone.

Sy, well done for getting through first day back at work. Thanks for ur message, I will have to read back over your first posts, may help me.
Paula (oh no page jumping!!!!!!)

Posted on: July 21, 2009 - 10:53pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

It seems to me you were only stating facts. 8-)

Loads of hugs paulasgems.

Posted on: July 21, 2009 - 11:02pm
sadsy

Hello,
my earlier post has disappeared (everyone heaves sigh of relief), but I'm going to do a replacement! (everyone groans).

Night night call to children, Luke unhappy again, he say Louise is going to women's refuge and he will have to stay with me, as he is not a woman and they won't let him in. What is she up to! Get feeling they will all disappear again soon, how will I trace them? Refuge is untraceable obviously. Mum say Louise told her that Paul not give Louise deadline to leave or anything like that. What is happening?

Arwen wouldn't end conversation tonight, spoke for 30 mins again, all through me putting my shoes on, going out door, into car, on speakerphone in car, parking for counsellor, then late for counsellor. She upset, she just want to keep hearing my voice. I sing her Twinkle Twinkle little star twice tonight, she sing me Hey diddle diddle, cow jumps over the moon twice.

Sparkling
How does your leg lock up, is it the knee? When it locks, is it sudden or gradual? Can you move it, but it hurts to move? How long does it last locked? Such a mystery, we really need to get this fixed. What did x-ray people say when it locked?

I haven't watched any TV for ages, is swine flu everywhere now? This is BBC page for symptoms if it helps http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8021958.stm

Have made my third ever "Sparkling taught" omelette tonight. Plain one, not sure when to add bits? Is it near end?

Harry Potter movie, how about go in with crutches and book for disabled spot with all extra legroom and easy access? Then you can enjoy movie!

Hoping Paulasgems would tell me all about it, so is up to you now!

Have to go get bedding down now. Hope I don't wake at 4 am again - what is it with 3-4 in morning, not like anything happening...

Not sure I like this working for a living lifestyle!

love sy

Posted on: July 21, 2009 - 11:06pm
sadsy

Oh Paulasgems,
so tough a situation for you! Shock, then anger - you are getting the anger bit from children at the moment.

Sorry, but I cheered when you texted him and let rip! Go for it Paulasgems! Right on!
(I get told off by moderators now, hopefully not banned).

You are quite right, he is responsible for his choices. Maybe if each of your children puts their questions to him down on paper. They could be asked of him in some way? They need answers from him.

Paulasgems, you are doing so well, today will pass and the sun will soon shine on you and your children again. You are fabulously strong and you have nothing to be sorry for. Be kind to yourself, you coped with really difficult situation.

Hope you have peaceful sleep. Will look at 4am (when I wake for some reason) to see if you OK.

love

sy

Posted on: July 21, 2009 - 11:24pm
Pansy

thank you sparkling. I surpose this is true. And it's not like I have said anything nasty up until now, I surpose it had to come out at some point!
hope they can do something for your leg soon!
Paula

Posted on: July 21, 2009 - 11:27pm
Pansy

thanks Sy :)
hope you dont wake again! you really cant go on like that you know!
I will will you to sleep through the night!!
thanks for support & cheer :lol:
night, night!
Paula

Posted on: July 21, 2009 - 11:32pm
sadsy

Yup, here I am at 4am again.

More cheers for Paulasgems! Telling it like it is! Hoooray! 8-)

Ah yes, tomorrow is "sunny intervals" in Dorset, see sun will shine on you a bit tomorrow.

Where is Dorset anyhow?

Quite natural for your rage to surface. See my post when I dropped back children and asked her about solicitor's letter giving me 30 mins in park with Arwen as an ongoing thing every 2 weeks. Said to Louise how selfish she was and could she look in the mirror? I was much more shockingly angry with my face and tone. Although I only said to Louise's current victim "STEP BACK". When he come for me. Enough stony rage in my face and voice to hold him to the spot.

I think you have found your own lioness spirit!.

You have your first children contact with him to come. Organise it in such a way so that you and children get a calm time. Contact is not for ex partners to slug it out though. Yes I know that's not what I did! Ooooh, I'm such hypocrite! I'll be quiet now.

Big Huuug for you

Hope your daughters calmer now. You are their rock in the world at the moment. They love you very much.

Sy

Posted on: July 22, 2009 - 4:21am
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hello everyone

Paulasgems, please don't blame yourself for losing your rag, you only did what anyone else would do. Sy is right when he recommends not arguing with their dad in front of the children but all you did was send a text message letting off steam. So take a deep breath and forgive yourself ;) Did you get that book I recommended? it would really help you to deal with all this. It's not surprising your daughter feels so aggrieved and (as I said once before) it's better that she lets out her feelings rather than internalises them, as this can lead to self-blame and sometimes even self-harm. Maybe you could have a little chat to her and say "I know you are very angry with your dad and you and I had a bit of a fall out yesterday, but today is a new day and you can always tell me how you feel, we will get through this together. That doesn't mean you can be disrespectful to me but I do love you and will always be here for you" Sometimes, when young people feel abandoned by a parent, they "test" the other parent by behaving badly...what they are testing is that the boundaries are still there but ALSO that you will not abandon them, however badly they behave.

Sy, sorry your sleeping still isn't too good but it does sound very confusing about what it happening. Do you think that Paul and Louise are splitting up and she is thinking of going to a refuge? By the way, refuges take boys as well (for Luke's information!) but I understand your thoughts that she may be seeing that as a way to "disappear". Poor Luke! he seems to have got caught in the crossfire with this one; Arwen is smaller and more easily consoled. I know you have a decent relationship with Louise's parents but I think you said that she doesn't see them much. Is there anyone else who Louise is friends with, that you could approach? Hope work goes Ok today.

Sparkling, good that you got that Xray done and you will just have to keeo an eagle eye on your kids' health, I have provided a useful link for you in the General Info section.

Take care, all, I am out and about today and will check in later

Posted on: July 22, 2009 - 10:03am
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi all, I have just been reading through the posts and sadsy....I saw that you were online! Tut, tut!! :lol:

It does all seem very strange what is going on with Louise, Our Louise is right, boys are allowed in refuges, although some do have rules about boys over 16 yrs old, or who have a tendency of being violent. I don't know how possible it is to ask Louise outright, whether in a letter or over the phone, why she feels that she needs to go to a refuge? If she has felt intimidated by you, I can understand it, but if she is just using it to get social housing then that is really naughty of her.

I am sorry to read that you didn't sleep through, I thought you might as you probably feel doubly exhausted after work. I hope there are no redundancies coming your way? :?

Paulagems, don't carry that guilt, like Homer Simpson says (and I put it into our quotes thread) “You can't keep blaming yourself. Just blame yourself once then move on.” I think in your situation this quote applies. We have all been there and it is normal to want to express your frustration with him, you are not perfect. (Said in the nicest possible way ;) )! My daughter is 14 and I have noticed recently that if I scold her for something (like rudeness), she gets really upset then starts talking about all the awful/unfair/difficult things that she is dealing with at school/friends/homework, I then find myself comforting her about that and the naughtiness has gone out of the window - the clever sausage!! Your daughter has a lot of difficult feelings at the moment, and Louise's suggestion of what to say to her I thought was brilliant, give it a go.

Sparklinglime, how long do you have to wait to hear about your xray? Did your children enjoy their visit? How are you today? :)

Posted on: July 22, 2009 - 3:02pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

About 10 days before the results go to the surgery. I must change my appointment though, as it's next Wednesday.

Posted on: July 22, 2009 - 3:35pm
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

You mean your appointment is before your results will get there sparkling?

Renault update: as you know, car was booked in to be repaired free, but before that it died in town and had to be towed away. Repair done and I collected it yesterday. Today I drove to York and on the way back huge clouds of smoke started billowing out the bonnet. I just managed to get it to the garage, it will cost this time as it is a water pipe. What was funny was that the traffic was very heavy and I was crawling along on the multi-lane road round the corner from the garage and people kept pulling up in the next lane, winding the window down and saying "Excuse me, luv, do you know you have smoke coming out of your car?" :lol:

Paulasgems, Anna is sooooo right about girls, they are very clever at diverting your attention from the issue in hand and making the argument/issue about everything else that has ever happened to them so it is a good idea to watch out for that and make them stick to the topic ;)

Sy hope your day at work has been Ok. I really don't know what to say about Louise and the refuge, what did she say to your Mum?

Posted on: July 22, 2009 - 4:55pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Have to say I'm curious as to what Louise said about the refuge too - and I'm not usually nosey... :roll:

Louise, I'm so sorry about your car. I know what a nightmare it is.

Posted on: July 22, 2009 - 8:34pm
Pansy

I post later, but for now please can someone tell me how to change password I cant find it anywhere!
Paula

Posted on: July 22, 2009 - 9:24pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

I can't see a way of doing it either...

Posted on: July 22, 2009 - 11:02pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

I’ve lost my password!
Don’t panic! While your password cannot be retrieved, it can easily be reset. Visit the login page and click I’ve forgotten my password. Follow the instructions and you should be able to log in again shortly.

maybe you need to 'pretend' you've lost it...

Posted on: July 22, 2009 - 11:05pm
sadsy

Very tired,
my orange bill came in and was for 1,269 minutes. It's £102. gulp.

Not sure if Louise intimidated by me, tried to not see her much lately at contact. Always kept plenty of body space between us. She not like to be questioned about thinking behind her decisions affecting children. Most of my cross face been directed to Paul as he starts shouting easily and has aggressive body language. I not tolerate it from him. I am the father. We did OK last week, me and him though.

I don't really understand the refuge bit. I might have to ask my mum again. Luke has mentioned refuge on call, he was hoping it mean he could live with me, poor thing, as he not woman. He not able to speak freely again tonight, they listen to his call, and all are banned from Louise/Paul's bedroom now since Luke's daring smuggling episode. Nor do I understand news from mum that children booked into school on coast. Louise not live near coast. Thought it illegal to apply for school outside your address? Luke say he want to see me this weekend, I say he have to ask mummy and be brave. Louise never answer my texts, so I have given up. He say if he ask things, she not answer him. Louise is hampered by part owning this house. She can't get housing I think.

Money worrying me now. Will look at cold figures on Friday (I have a short week, using holiday day Fri/Mon, boss recommends it. Can't do any chasing whilst at work. How long will I last? I may have to say sorry to Luke some day soon, I could not keep the house going...his bedroom gone.

Louise
Sorry to hear about your car. Hose shouldn't be too much money. Should only be half hour labour max. Best not to drive too far if temp gauge go into red, can warp engine. More of a worry if it stops billowing steam, then all water boiled away. You may have recovery on your motor insurance?

What is a white witch? My boss says she is one (really). I did see a witches year book on her desk when I met her some time back. Is it just me or is life really weird at the moment? Not sure whether to ask her about it one day? Bit awkward. Maybe she could make me a love charm thing?

I have to fill in performance self-assessment form tomorrow at work, I have to be clever with words somehow to save myself? I'd like to have my eyes corrected with bonus money, but know in my heart I will have to use it up to stay in house.

So tired. Not get back till 10. Feel stupid.

OH - my tablet! forgot.

love you all very much

sy

Posted on: July 22, 2009 - 11:06pm
Pansy

It's ok. I have done it now.(password)

Oh my God, what a night. Husband has reminded me why I had such a tough time for years!
I am in a right state. I cant stop shaking. I cant believe how nasty he has been. Really nasty texted all steming from the fact that he had somehow seen a message someone had put in reply to my wall message on facebook.
I had put that I was not having such good day as I had found out Paul will be staying in Scotland & i felt back at square one (this was a few days ago now) a friend had replied saying he is a selfish b....d & he will miss out on his kids growing up. I didnt even see it there as it was hidden away in the comments others had made. To be honest I'd have removed it had I seen it & I have now removed it. I sent text back saying I was not responible for others opinions of him due to his own actions & that I would always remind kids what a good dad hes been, but that the dad he is from now is up to him. And that what has shocked people the most & why I called him what I did last night is because of his actions since I found out (not the actual action of going off with someone else, the fact that he fail to talk to them/me before he took off) I then got a series of texts from him telling me how it was my fault to & I would have to face up to that, & that I am like his Dad was! This really upset me cause I am nothing like his Dad was if I were I would have not have been at all nice about any of this & be turning his kids against him amoungst many other things he done that I have NEVER done.I am totally devastated by the things he has said in such a nasty way & so dissapointed because I see no way back from this now. I wonder has he had a drink? to make him like this. He has reminded me of the terrible problem he has never been able to deal with, he just cant deal with taking reponsibility for his actions, it has always been the same, he blames someone else, always has done!
What do I do now? I dont want to talk to him now. I will get that book you reminded me of, thank you! I will order it tomorrow, should I get him cpoy too? give to his Mum to send him.
I am so sad I thought we would be able to be friends. :cry:

Posted on: July 22, 2009 - 11:45pm
sadsy

Hello Paulasgems,
so sorry you are unsettled tonight. It is very distressing when old relationship takes an unexpected dive. It just sounds like more of the threads from the old relationship are breaking. With me, I waited to see if Louise' honesty would go, it took a 1-2 weeks, but did in end and then so did trust.

Quote:
Oh my God, what a night. Husband has reminded me why I had such a tough time for years!

He is lashing out, because of the pain his actions have brought him. "Surely there must be someone else to blame?" is in his mind. Much easier to deal with pain then. Thank goodness those days moving into the past now.

The not dealing with responsibility for for his actions, sends shivers for me, as it is something I've had from Louise too. Some bizarre logic appears to protect themselves from pain of guilt.

Being friends may still be possible, but way off in future. Cooling off time might be needed for the moment. New partner is responsible for his emotional wellbeing now, his choice. You look after yourself and the children lioness!

My experience with alcohol, is it just reveals thoughts and actions that are usually repressed. They are there all the time, but are held back. So it never actually "turns someone into someone else" as such, just reveals more of what is there and is usually hidden.

Has your heart been hoping he will come back to you Paulasgems? You were looking for amicable separation and mature friendship? I think the stakes are too high for that, too many years invested, too much pain. Might find this outburst coincides with new partner being unsettled with what she has taken on too. Honeymoon period not last long, 1-2 months.

You don't need to talk with him at the moment surely? Why expose yourself to more of his uncaringness? Need only so much communication as is necessary planning calm contact with children.

You are an independent person now, you and your children's bright new future is ahead of you now, that old pain is moving into the past.

Wish I could make a nice cup of tea for you!
You might get some sensible comments tomorrow, I have fuzzy head and am cross you had a hard time today.
But, you know, you have survived it! Tomorrow is a fresh day. The bad days will get less and less. ;)

You are doing so well, and you have such a noble and generous spirit.

Biiig huug for you Paulasgems, will be thinking of you tomorrow

fuzzy sy - must sleep now - sorry i not think clearly at moment

Posted on: July 23, 2009 - 3:29am
sadsy

Paulasgems,
please be kind to yourself today.

I really see a very bright future for you and it is really early days. You may still regard yourself as his partner still without realising it. I know I was surprised how long it has taken to let go. I was still asking if she would like a bath run for her when she got in, even though she was having sex with new partner, how sad is that!

It takes time to let go.

It will hurt less and less.

Will be thinking of you today.
May sneak a look at posts lunchtime at work, if no one looking :?

love

sy

Posted on: July 23, 2009 - 7:33am
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Sadsy do not get caught on the internet at work, the last thing you need is to be booted from your job. We do not need to be the cause of that!

Paulasgems, I hope you manage to sleep well. I am so sorry to read your post, the fact that you were physically shaking, shows how deep his texts have cut.

Facebook - you can change your settings so only certain people can read your wall, this might be useful, so others can not glean what you are up to. It seems a bit odd that he is looking at your profile anyway. Don't you think? :?
You have every right to write on your Facebook wall whatever you wish and your friends have a right to share their opinions.

You have to shrug off what he said about you being similar to his Dad. This has obviously hurt you and you seem to whole-heartedly disagree, he was saying this to attack you and by you listening to it and (probably) considering it, means that his plan worked. It is a very conniving trick, one I have had done to me on a few occassions. You have to ignore it, it was him trying to have a pop, but not actually having anything to say so choosing other ways to hurt you.

I, too, also wanted to have an amicable split and bent over backwards and kept my mouth shut and tried everything to keep things on an even keel, but it didn't work. If I'm honest NOTHING I could have said or done, could have placated him, or made us friends. Still to this day, 7 years on, I am aware that he hates me. I find that really difficult to live with, but I can't change it and sadly it seems it is the only way he can deal the situation.

Who knows what the future holds for your relationship with your ex, but right now it is about protecting yourself, so that you can keep looking after your children and maybe one day you will be friends.

Take care of you

Posted on: July 23, 2009 - 10:45am
sadsy

trying to save career with some clever words!

i Not like these performance management software things.

Might just write a poem like last year...Oh no I promised not to do that again.

sy

Posted on: July 23, 2009 - 11:28am
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi Paulasgems

it's horrible isn't it when our emotions affect us so PHYSICALLY? :( Poor you, what a tirade to cope with! Hope you are feeling calmer today.

Lots of wise words for you here from the others so I have not much to add except to say what he said to you about his dad was calculated to be one of things that would hurt you the most. Whatever he says, he knows you to be a loving person who has tried so hard to support him over the years and one of the worst things he can do to you is to negate that......and of course to make you into a baddie!!!!

The thing about Facebook, well tut tut, talk about name and shame, he didn't like it eh? ;)

re that book, whilst he might well need a copy I think it would provoke another tirade at present so just get one for yourself....

Let us know how you are

Louise :)

Posted on: July 23, 2009 - 11:41am
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hello Sy

Yes, dont get into "bother" at work! they might have a way of checking up on web activity.

The garage man is phoning this afternoon, I have plans A and B depending on when it is ready. I have to get to a meeting which, although on a bus route, is unfamiliar and I won't know when to get off :oops: oh well it will be an adventure.

So I wonder if Louise is contemplating a house move to the coast. If so, why the refuge talk? As far as your house goes, Sy, the main thing for the children (Luke in particular) is that he has his dad in his life, not what house you are in (houses are just the background to our lives).

Take care

Posted on: July 23, 2009 - 11:45am
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Hi Paulasgem

Sorry he's done this to you. I found ex would turn (and I'm sure still does with the children) everything onto me. I took a few years for people to realise that it was rubbish, sadly. I now know who my friends are...

Loads of hugs coming your way. Focus on you and the children. Try not to reply to him at all. If he doesn't like reading about himself on FB then he needs to stop looking at your profile. Do change your settings though, if you can. I know people can see stuff on 'friends' boards though.

Hope today is a better day for you.

Posted on: July 23, 2009 - 1:07pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

sy - are you on contract with Orange? They will change it to be more suited to your needs, although it will be a new contract... I had to do it with my eldest. :roll:

While you ex is being totally unreasonable (I'm sorry if this term upsets you, but I keep getting mixed up with 'our' Louise), I really don't know what you can do to stop her. I went through solicitor's with my ex, and it couldn't stop him.

Have the papers gone into the Court? I just feel this needs to be acted on so quickly before things settle into the 'every other weekend' routine. If its established, it can be argued that its working...

Finances. I actually have book-keeping and accounting qualification and hate finances with a passion! You do need to open everything though and face it. You're so much stronger now than you were a few weeks back. You can do this and then make decisions based on what you can cope with. Please be aware though, should your ex go through CSA they will base maintenance at 20% of your income. They will have no interest in your outgoings. Travel can sometimes be taken into consideration. Please don't think I'm trying to worry you, I would be concerened if you thought you were doing ok and then CSA came along... Did you say this financial advisor your mum saw was good? Could he help you?

Work. Oh no. I'm hoping all will be well here. It's such a dreadful time at the moment. I truly do have everything crossed that the words you find (notice I didn't say poem!) will be magical!

Schooling. Surely as you have parental responsibilities - or will have - you have the right to know where the children will be attending, so you have access to how they're doing? I don't think you have to be informed of your ex's home address or telephone number. I know I don't 'officially' have The Git's address and I don't have a landline or alternative number. He does know the school's the children attend though, although I have no idea if he's informed them of his change of details. I've given the schools my ex-in-laws address as second contact.

Posted on: July 23, 2009 - 1:19pm
sadsy

Hello,
it's lunch time, I don't care if I get caught, I'm on anti-D's, don't feel a thing :lol:

Paulasgems, are you OK?

Shaking may be adrenalin rush from fear and anger. I usually burst into tears (not very manly I know). Energy has to go somewhere. Should have passed after 15 mins?

Will check when I get home tonight, we all waiting to hear from you!

sy

Posted on: July 23, 2009 - 1:45pm
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Sy have you got over the shock of the phone bill? :shock: I have got my car back from the garage but.........it has to go back on Monday for further twiddlings so I haven't paid yet so I don't know what the cost will be. :o

Posted on: July 23, 2009 - 6:48pm
Pansy

I dont believe it I have just written a REALLY long post that took me 2 hrs because of interuptions & lost it :evil:

Posted on: July 23, 2009 - 7:14pm
sadsy

Hello Sparkling!
phew. Got tomorrow off and Monday.

Had chat with boss at end of day. She readying to be made redundant. She think I can do her job, I say noooo, don't gooo! "She say we had our ups and downs" - too right, nearly destroyed me! Decisions have already been made apparently, she does not know them yet, her new boss knows and he would not look me in eye today, he looks miserable with his burden. Apparently decisions based on my self appraisal and feedbackers i filled in today - gulp! That's me done then. One of my objectives I never did in the end!

My colleague who is Aikido black belt has given me an exercise for my tummy. He can do those "disable you by holding you with one finger" type things, hehe. I squeal like a girl when he try and demonstrate with me. We should know week after next who is gone out of our happy team. Have been press ganged into corporate rounders next Wednesday. Would never have done it before. Quite fancy it now, BBQ after. Opportunity to look very silly.

Orange bill - i need to look at it. Phoned orange. Children's call should not affect it, as it is to a landline which is free after 7pm. Must be all the other sorting out calls. Need twice my 225 monthly minutes I have currently I think.

Sparkling, you not answer my questions about your leg. How am I going to fix it without information?

Oh. Mum just phone say children will be going to school in Thundersley. Louise not allow Luke to stay with me this weekend because "he is whining about it". She is very cruel, he's been so miserable on the phone this week :(

Then I had surprise call CSA lady on phone running through questions. I try not to be too rattled. Is normal, and I expected it some point, just not ready for phone call tonight. So, clock ticking on me in house now. Beginning of the end of having a home. Children and Louise need the money though.

I guess Louise will feel the same when court order comes through letterbox.

I was so happy today, feel a bit down now. No alcohol allowed for me, grrr.

Children's call in a moment. Poor Luke. bet Louise not tell him he not coming this weekend...

Be back later - sorry for my long posts.

sy

Posted on: July 23, 2009 - 7:42pm
sadsy

Oh Paulasgems,
a 2 hour post! I could have read it all evening...

Can you do another one? Not a small one please, reeeeaaaallly big one!

love

sy

Posted on: July 23, 2009 - 7:46pm
sadsy

Oh goodness,
louise not tell luke he not coming to see me or why. I have to tell him.

Children distracted tonight, so not a long call. They adjusted back into their other life again.

I text louise to say "CSA setting payment specification now".
I say "cruel to deny luke contact as punishment". I say "he'll not forget".

Really would like a mind numbing drink...my counsellor's warning keeping me in check.

Wouldn't it be lovely to do figures tomorrow and find i could stay in house, even with maintenance...dreaming of course.

sorry i so wrapped up in myself today. I do care about you all - i'm bit selfish at moment.

sy

Posted on: July 23, 2009 - 8:46pm
Pansy

I dont know what I'd do without you all! , so glad I had the sense to look for support on net.
I changed all settings & passwords to everything when I got his text. I had not realised that I should have done the settings on the search on facebook too. Also I have taken his mum off so that he cant go on hers & maybe see links. I will explain to her it not personal later. Girls settings needed doing too. I think he must have got facebook himself & maybe put his mum or brother on. I suddenly realised too that I needed to change my password to my email ac , he may have had password to this from emails :o it has all been changed now though.
I never replied to his nasty texts, only once to say I would not reply to nasty texts & was switching off phone now.
I was so worried about switching it back on this morning, but there were not anymore there. I am worried I may get letter now with more of the same!
It was tempting to reply in my defense, but I wont. I wondered if I should just text to say I do not want it to be like this & we need to talk properly. I was thinking should I suggest that he come on the beach caravan holiday we had booked at the end Aug, he could spend week having fun with kids & we could also talk to each other & maybe lay things to rest & find peace with each other. I know I wouldn't have a problem with this, dont know what to think? where does this leave the kids? I surpose he has got their mobile numbers, it is up to him to make contact, or kids if they want to, not me.
I am so hurt by what he said, I cant help it. I really do think he thinks those things because I was picking up on it along time ago, feeling resentment from him. I asked him about it quite alot, but he always told me he did not feel that way toward me.
Thank you Louise, Anna, Sparkling & Sy ,you all help & Sy makes me laugh :lol:
Sy Dorset is between Hampshire & Devon & I wish you could make me a cup of tea too! It would be great to all have tea together wouldn't it, but I am happy to have you at the end of my computer.

Posted on: July 23, 2009 - 9:28pm
sadsy

Sparkling,
how prophetic!

Quote:
Please be aware though, should your ex go through CSA they will base maintenance at 20% of your income. They will have no interest in your outgoings. Travel can sometimes be taken into consideration. Please don't think I'm trying to worry you, I would be concerned if you thought you were doing ok and then CSA came along...

I did think I was doing OK in my little terraced council house - though I was putting my head in sand and hiding to protect myself from worry of it.

CSA lady very formal. She going straight to my payroll dept at work. Wonder if I qualify for legal aid now if my net income drop so much? She call me next week I think.

Sorry I bit boring tonight. Boiling old (dated 17th) new potatoes, do I cut them in half? They seem to be quite hard still... My repetoire of omelette or spaghetti is bit limited. Need a new cooking challenge.

Feel bit lonely tonight.

Always sleeping tablet to look forward to...maybe satyr lady come visit me, as long as she leave my feet alone this time, hooves are quite elegant though...

sy

Posted on: July 23, 2009 - 9:43pm
Pansy

oh sorry Sy, you having tough time too. We need to be good as gold & not put a foot wrong because of our children, for their sakes but it is hard sometimes isn't it, but they wont forget our actions, they speak louder than words!

I cant really believe that the worst I have done is call him a selfish ******* once. & that took me 3 wks!

I hope your job will be ok, good luck next week. I think I must remember to make appointment with Dr tomorrow. I hope you sleep well tonight.

I was really upset about loosing my post, I had been trying to write it for 2 hrs & kept being interupted, I cant go into it all now but I wrote some of it again.
take care & sleep well
Paula

Posted on: July 23, 2009 - 9:47pm
sadsy

Paulasgems?

Quote:
I was thinking should I suggest that he come on the beach caravan holiday we had booked at the end Aug

Whaaaat, you all together again in a caravan for a week? With all the pain and hurt wouldn't that be a bit emotionally explosive?
You are soooo much a better person than me, if anyone can make that work, it is you. What a noble spirit you have!

So sorry you are feeling hurt, his comment was meant to hurt I suspect, does not mean it is true though...

I'm OK at moment, anti-D's reduce pain unless a big hurt. If house sums bad tomorrow, I may do Reggie Perrin, strip naked, with sombre dignity on Brighton beach, bid the world a last sad goodbye, step into the steely grey sea......blxxdy hell, water's cold! Run for it up beach and grow a beard. :lol:

Is your missing post in drafts? I have lost a couple of posts too, but thought the everyone would be better without them, hehe.

A OneSpace tea party would be cool :D Those that have Renaults would never make it there though...

Not had courage to ask boss about the white witch thing yet. I want her to enchant a pendant with a love charm. Looking for a black rabbit of Inle pendant on ebay, not seem to be one.

Quote:
We need to be good as gold & not put a foot wrong because of our children, for their sakes but it is hard sometimes isn't it, but they wont forget our actions, they speak louder than words!

It is true, I've put both feet wrong though. I was cordial to Paul last weekend because Luke tell me off for "fighting". In the nicest, sweetest, gentlest way he told me. Love Luke so much.

sy

Posted on: July 23, 2009 - 10:49pm
sadsy

Louise,

Quote:
I have got my car back from the garage but.........it has to go back on Monday for further twiddlings so I haven't paid yet so I don't know what the cost will be.

They should be giving you an estimate of work required for you to approve before they go ahead! Bit worried.

What are the twiddlings?

love

sy

Posted on: July 23, 2009 - 10:57pm