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sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Hi

It's horrid when the children aren't with you in the very early days. I used to take my lot to The Git as I couldn't bear to see him take them away from me.

So loads of virtual hugs (I know they're no good, but they are sincere).

As for the finance side of things... Are you working? Sometimes facing the practical side of things and trying to sort them out can help you cope. If you are working, then you need to phone the working tax credit dept up and see what they can do to help. It could be that you do now need to put in a claim in your own name rather than a couple.

If you're not working, then the route would be having a word with the lone-parent advisor in the local job centre. They can see if you're entitled to income support. What your husband is paying for the mortgage would be considered to be maintenance. Maintenance does not count as income for working tax credit purposes though.

One of my children did ask to live with his dad once. I told him it wasn't possible (at that time he was out of the house 13 hours a day).

I'm five years down the road now though, and I wouldn't change a thing really - well, secure career and plenty of money!! My children are happy, and while it could be said I don't have a life, for now, the children are my life.

I really do wish you well. Just do things in little steps.

I'm looking forward to getting to know you.

Posted on: April 18, 2009 - 8:08pm

Digby

Thank you for your reply Sparklinglime, your words really helped. Well i have survuved the night, with a few tears, it was very hard handing my son over knowing i wouldn't see him till tonight, only 7 1/2 hours to go :D I am sure he has had a great time.

I work full time as a child minder, but with this job you really never know from week to week what you are going to bring in and also a parent can come and end the contract at any time, meaning i lose money straight away. I love the job, but the uncertainty now that i need to make sure bills get paid makes it difficult. I am seriously thinking of looking for something more permenant which is more secure.

I phoned the Child Tax credit line yesterday, after i had written on here, and they have reassessed my claim and will pay me again from this week, and the money has gone up quite a bit, which is really going to help. It would have helped if they had sent a covering letter with their last one to tell me they were doing this, then maybe i wouldn't have panicked so much :shock:

Do you know if i have to let my husband know how much they are now paying? If i do he will reduce the payments he is giving me at the moment.

I am looking forward to being 5 years down the line like you and looking back and wondering just why i got so upset. Thank you again.

Posted on: April 19, 2009 - 8:55am

sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Digby wrote:
Thank you for your reply Sparklinglime, your words really helped. Well i have survuved the night, with a few tears, it was very hard handing my son over knowing i wouldn't see him till tonight, only 7 1/2 hours to go :D I am sure he has had a great time.

I work full time as a child minder, but with this job you really never know from week to week what you are going to bring in and also a parent can come and end the contract at any time, meaning i lose money straight away. I love the job, but the uncertainty now that i need to make sure bills get paid makes it difficult. I am seriously thinking of looking for something more permenant which is more secure.

I phoned the Child Tax credit line yesterday, after i had written on here, and they have reassessed my claim and will pay me again from this week, and the money has gone up quite a bit, which is really going to help. It would have helped if they had sent a covering letter with their last one to tell me they were doing this, then maybe i wouldn't have panicked so much :shock:

Do you know if i have to let my husband know how much they are now paying? If i do he will reduce the payments he is giving me at the moment.

I am looking forward to being 5 years down the line like you and looking back and wondering just why i got so upset. Thank you again.

Personally, I don't see why you should tell your husband anything with regards to the benefit, as it will be based on your income alone. I do admire you so much being a childminder.

I know that the staff of the benefits system are well snowed under, but their inconsideration adds to such desperate situations.

I'm on incomse support (even though I worked for over 22 years I still can't get used to it), and happened to mention that I was hoping to train to be a driving instructor. They stopped by benefits two weeks before Christmas without notice! It was an awful time and I totally fell apart.

I hope that I will succeed in being a driving instructor - and just maybe I'll have that secure career, but maybe not lots of money with four children... :roll:

Five years down the road I still get upset over stuff! I look back and think I really don't have a reason to get worked up now, but I do! I think it what affects you at the time. My children are quite used to me crying over things and don't even react anymore! :lol: I'm a very emotional person though - take after my mum!

I hope it's not too long now before your son is home with you.

Best wishes

Posted on: April 19, 2009 - 4:13pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi Digby

it's good to hear from you. I do hope that your son was home on time and you felt reassured. The first time is the greatest wrench, I believe :( Not that it is ever "easy".....

Ok practical matters first. Thank heavens the Tax Credit people did reassure you, I would have advised a very urgent phone call if not. You also need to check with them as I believe there are special rules for childminders, I think more lenient ones to take account of the fact that you have day to day care of extra children. You have no obligation to tell the other parent ANYTHING about your finances at this stage. However, if you do get divorced then part of that process will involves a financial settlement. Each of you would have to fill in a really detailed booklet about your finances so that it can be decided who gets what, etc.by the court.

Although I personally believe that either parent is equally capable of caring for a child, the courts in this country still do tend to favour the mother very heavily in terms of where a child lives. You may, however, be encouraged to share more of the care with his father than you would like to. it is best if you can agree this between the two of you without getting courts and mediators involved. I would recommend you (both!) read "Putting Children First" by Karen and Nick Woodall (available online from amazon or play.com etc) as this will guide you thorugh the minefield. There are also some emotional implications to be considered. You have been thinking, quite rightly, about your son's emotional wellbeing. Please now also think about your own. However strongly you know the split to be the right thing to do, there is still a process of "mourning" to go through, and it's important to go through it and not just squash it down otherwise it may turn up and bite you on the b*ttom in the future ( :? )

Let us know how you get on and we are here to support you

Take care

Louise :)

Posted on: April 20, 2009 - 10:45am

Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi Digby thanks for sharing your story, it sounds as if you took control of your destiny by leaving your ex, but are now feeling a bit lonely, financially insecure and a bit uncertain about the future.

I received a fortune cookie yesterday and it said -"A journey of a thousand miles begins with one step" - and now it makes me think of you, you have been brave, you wanted more from your life and taken that first step. Well done! :P

Ex partners are well known for being the perfect parent straight after a break up, I hope for your son's sake that he keeps this up. :?

You say that you are feeling lonely, would you consider moving back to where your family are? Or is that out of the question? Perhaps you could join some weekend activity where you can have some fun, enjoy time with your son and make some new friends, as I imagine it is quite hard to meet new people in your line of work.

Great news about the tax credits, they are sent to test us!

Keep strong there is a whole new life just waiting for you around the corner. :)

Posted on: April 20, 2009 - 12:24pm

Digby

Thank you again for the replies. My son came home on time, a little early actually and he had had a great time!
I will ask about child minders with the child tax people, they asked me my income, but not my job.
My husband saw a solicitor on Friday and he told him how much i would receive in tax benefits, so that has been taken out of my hands!

I have ordered the book already, so will read that once i get it.

I think i am mourning what could have been rather than regreting splitting. My husband is coping far better than me, he is actually relishing being on his own and just now wants to draw a line under the whole matter. Considering that i was the one that finished it, i can't understand how he can be as happy as he is with it all.

anna, i am very uncertain about the future, money wise and house wise as to where we will end up living. There is no chance of moving closer to my family, as much as i would love to. They are all in the south of England, which is far too expensive to buy a house, also my son is very settled at a good school here. He has accepted the break up of me and his dad really well, so i don't want to move him schools which may really unsettle him.
Because it is still such early days, i am stil lfinding my feet as to what to do at weekends etc. I am very good at putting on a "i am okay " face, even when i feel like crying at times.

Posted on: April 20, 2009 - 2:39pm

Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi digby

sorry I think I must have missed your post last week :?

Glad to hear that your son had a good time with his father, that is one relief!

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Considering that i was the one that finished it, i can't understand how he can be as happy as he is with it all.

It just goes to show who has the guts to face reality and deal with it ;)

I have often heard that it is always harder for the person ending a relationship, because they can look back and maybe feel regretful, question themselves and like you say, mourn what could have been. Whereas the dumpee (?!) can feel rejected but then get on with their life.

I am glad to hear that you are not regretting the splitting up, just try and remember what it felt like when you were in the relationship and what the positives were going to be when you decided to broach the subject of separation.

I understand your uncertainity about the future, just keep taking each day as it comes, it will all pan out, you NEVER know what is round the corner! At the weekends maybe you could do things that you NEVER thought you would do, challenge yourself, take a flask, packet of crisps, apples and a waterproof jacket and go and climb a really steep rocky hill? Or join a trampolining club perhaps - I am trying to be as random as possible here!!

And digby please remember if you feel like crying, take yourself off to the bathroom, bedroom, wherever you can and have a jolly good cry - you need to. Everyone here knows what it is like to do the 'I'm ok face' for the children, teachers, friends and family. But give yourself a break and let it out. And then give yourself a BIG HUG - You ARE ok :)

Posted on: April 28, 2009 - 4:38pm

mousie

Hi I'm Mousie
My second husband left me 5 weeks ago. I have a 25 year old daughter and 22 year old son from my previous marriage and the most gorgeous little girl whose just three. I have only been married 4 1/2 years but we had been together about 8 yrs. Just got back from a wonderful holiday in Egypt in March when my husband announced he was leaving that he had had enough??!! He said it was nothing I had done but he just couldn't cope! The next two weeks he kept in touch saying we needed to talk and sort things out then one day a phone call saying he was never coming back and that I made his life hell and that he hated me etc... Am totally shocked, devastated cant believe he could leave his beautiful daughter?? He has seen her a few times but she doesn't want to seehim without me and he wont see me cos he cant be doing with all my crying and stuff. Help? just cant believe it has happened I still love him so much ...

Posted on: May 14, 2009 - 1:07pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi Mousie

What a terrible shock for you, coming out of the blue like that. the latest phone call sounds as if he is trying to convince himself you are a horrible person so that he can justify his behaviour to himself. Of course he "can't be doing with your crying", he feels guilty and can't cope with the responsibility.

It must be very difficult reassuring your daughter and keeping things stable. Can I recommend a book to you? "Putting Children First" by Karen and Nick Woodall is very helpful and the first half of the book helps you deal with the breakup and understadn why you are feeling as you are. Don't hesitate to get help from your GP if things get really tough. Do you have a lot of contact with your two older children? They can maybe be a big support right now.

It is early days at the moment so don't expect too much of yourself. I am glad you found us: you will get lots of support here

Take care

Louise :)

Posted on: May 14, 2009 - 1:37pm

sparklinglime
DoppleMe

mousie wrote:
Hi I'm Mousie
My second husband left me 5 weeks ago. I have a 25 year old daughter and 22 year old son from my previous marriage and the most gorgeous little girl whose just three. I have only been married 4 1/2 years but we had been together about 8 yrs. Just got back from a wonderful holiday in Egypt in March when my husband announced he was leaving that he had had enough??!! He said it was nothing I had done but he just couldn't cope! The next two weeks he kept in touch saying we needed to talk and sort things out then one day a phone call saying he was never coming back and that I made his life hell and that he hated me etc... Am totally shocked, devastated cant believe he could leave his beautiful daughter?? He has seen her a few times but she doesn't want to seehim without me and he wont see me cos he cant be doing with all my crying and stuff. Help? just cant believe it has happened I still love him so much ...

Hi Mousie

I'm sorry you're going through this. It must have been such a shock. It will take a while to sink in, I'm afraid.

Men, I feel, do find it hard to deal with emotion, and do 'lash out' when maybe they haven't done so before - adds to the shock. As Louise says, the blame will be put onto you so that it makes him feel less bad.

I hope you have the support you need from your family and your friends. If you can, try and focus on practical things that do need to be sorted. Your youngest daughter will help you get through this. The only reason I think I'm breathing is because of my children. And if you can, try and fit something into the day that will make you smile. With me it was silly singing and daft dances - it would make the children laugh and just helped a little.

Sending loads of hugs and strength your way. Be kind to you and start taking teeny baby steps forwards...

Best wishes

Posted on: May 14, 2009 - 2:26pm

samsquirrel

hi -im sam, 39 and 2 lovely girls, 13 and 5

have now been a single parent twice now. Dad no 2 has been gone for now 7 months and i suppose I am coping ok. Really lonely in the evenings though and on the days that dad no 2 shows up and takes them out for the day. Having difficulty with so called friends that I thought I had, now havent seen them for ages and the atmosphere is bad. Not having a partner seemed to change them and we dont really have much in common.

Stuck in a rut at the moment and finding it difficult to get out socially and meet anyone new.

Posted on: May 17, 2009 - 2:52pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

hello Sam, thanks for sharing your story :)

It's a common experience that peoples' "friends" can melt away when they become single parents. I used to wonder if I had grown an extra head and made sure to check the mirror every time I passed :roll: Some people think it ie because a single woman is thought of as a threat to a couple but I don't see why, if that couple is secure. Anyway I do remember the feeling of making a fresh start; I am just trying to think of how I met the people who are now my closest friends. I met one in the playground, another on a course I was on, another through a parenting class and another via a social club I joined. So I guess it is a case of keeping your eyes peeled during day to day activites and also thinking about taking an evening class or joining a social activity. It is also a case that you have to be a bit more "forward" than perhaps you feel comfortable with and you be the one to suggest coffee or lunch.

You are welcome here at One Space where you will find plenty of online friendship and support. yes, it is hard when the kids go to the other parent, but that can be YOUR time and it would be nice to be able to spoil yourself with some little treats ;)

Take care and keep posting

Louise

Posted on: May 17, 2009 - 8:05pm

shellk

hi all this is my story

i met my ex through a blind date he was really lovely had a honeymoon period then the suprise came that i was pregnant while on the pill 3 months into the relationship, i did say to him then that i would understand if he wanted to leave me as it was so early in the relationship, he said no a couple months down the line he proposed i said yes and we decided to start planning wedding. my pregnancy went on and i had our little girl then looking back things did start to seem different when i was pregnant but i put it down to hormones. when our daughter was about 7 months old he dropped the bombshell that he had been seeing someone else through most of my pregnancy and all of the time after this was only 8 months before our wedding so i had to deal with canceling all of that and trying to claim money back as well as the coming to terms with being a single mum and all that comes with it.
i did take him back a couple months later but it only last not even 2 months and he informed me that he hadnt stopped seeing this other girl like he had said and he was in love with her not me. he said lots of nasty things that second time like he wanted me to have a abortion (i dont agree with them). so we split for good that time.
he started out really good with contact and giving me maintenance money then things started slipping he would make excuses let us down at last minute notice or just not turning up at all. this got worse he had numerous chances from me for just another chance to prove he could be good at contact. then went on for a while then i decided to stop the contact as i decided how it was just wasnt right for our daughter. i gave in though to his begging and it started again but he stopped the maintence payments to the csa. then fast forward to a couple of months ago and it all started slipping again he would go weeks with not seeing her and when he did have her he just didnt put any effort in. the icing on the cake that pushed me to the final choice i have made of not letting him have contact he was taking her out in a car without a car seat including fairly long journeys. he has not seen or spoke to her now for around 3 months ish i have told him that now if he wants contact it will need to be sorted by a solicitor which he refuses to do so the ball is completely in his court.
i am having lots of trouble with my daughter now which all stems from not seeing him
sorry this is a long post

Posted on: May 17, 2009 - 11:41pm

sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Hi Shell

Sorry you're having some issues with you daughter. Hopefully she'll settle into a routine. Inconsistencies for children isn't easy for them to cope with at any age, as I've found.

Best wishes

Posted on: May 17, 2009 - 11:55pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hello Shell

it sounds as if you have had a lot of ups and downs with the other parent and all credit to you that you tried to arrange contact with your daughter. Whilst I support this in almost all cases, I would say one of the exceptions if when your child's safety is compromised and certainly the car seat thing is very worrying so you had to do what you had to do, you can't take that risk :shock: Please bear in mind that parental contact and the payment of child support are two completely separate things in law and you are entitled to that child support whether he sees his daughter or not. I hope in the future they will be able to rebuild their relationship but in the meantime keep on being a great mum :)

Take care

Louise

Posted on: May 18, 2009 - 9:36am

Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi shell thanks for sharing, you have been through tough times and your trust has been manipulated more than once.

Good for you for taking the bull by the horns and coming to a concrete decision about access. I think it is one of the hardest decisions to make, we don't want to be seen as difficult and we are always being told that access to both parents is the best for our kids, so it is really courageous of you to recognise what would be best for your daughter and sticking to it.

You say that your daughter is being difficult at the moment and you think it is because she is not seeing her father. This WILL pass, she is still young and she has not had consistency from him, so the poor little lass is probably confused. Try and keep her routine going as smooth as possible and know in your heart you are doing the right thing as our little ones can read our emotions like books!

Posted on: May 18, 2009 - 11:39am

Livy's Mama

Hi. My ex and I bought a home about 20 miles from my hometown, to a little town where it was only he and his mother that I knew. (Clever huh?) We were fine for a few months til he started texting other girls and being really possesive of his phone and the internet. So we argued about that alot. We arranged and cancelled a wedding. Which is hard enough as things were never the same again and we decided to part ways June 2007 until I found out I was pregnant. So we decided to get back together and give things another go for the sake of our daughter.
We bought this home together yet he never once helped me pay for the mortgage or bills. And I was working full time just to pay for our home with no money left over. He never once helped.
I had a very traumatic birth with my daughter. I had pre elampsia which was missed even tho I had all the symptoms besides the high blood pressure. I eneded up having a seizure during the pushing stage of labour and we are both lucky to still be ok. I had a lot of symptoms which my midwife just dismissed and told me to drink coke! Bet she had a shock lol.
Anyway we were in hospital for a week, Livy in the neo natal due to a heart murmour, problems breathing and pneumonia (however u spell it). After the birth my ex was very attentive and seemed to have snapped bk into the man I fell in love with as he realised he had nearly lost the both of us for good.
Sadly this was short lived and he started getting onto me about how he had to be up early for work and how he couldnt help at night time feeds or helping get her to sleep. Or shouting at me because she was crying and disturbing his sleep. he would also moan that I hadn't had chance to iron his uniform yet despite having to adjust to being a new mum for the first time.
He already had a son from a previous relationship and said that his ex managed to cope with it all and a new baby and threw her in my face. So he started taking all his clothes to his mother. Who by the way is one of the vilest people I have ever met.
She is so possesive of her son, she wont let him do anything for himself, he has been spoilt all his life. he doesnt even deal with his own money matters, mummy does it for him despite being nearly 25. She was alway condescending of me, and what I did was not to his or her standards. We knocked horns more than once. Until she finally told me that everything I was doing with my child was wrong, despite the fact that most of her own children want nothing to do with her. So I ended contact with here there and then.
One night whilst on our own whilst my parents looked after my daughter, my ex and I enjoyed a bottle of wine together, when for no reason at all he flipped. I went upstairs out of his way to avoid an argument and he followed me and attacked me. It was the first time and the last. He had his hands around my throat, headbutted me, cut my hand open coz I had his door key in my hand that he was trying to get off me. He kept saying to me 'If I want to kill you I will' I believed he would. Then when I finally got downstairs to ring my parents for help he threw my phone against the wall and me against the wall and started smashing up my home. My parents had called the police but he had gone by the time they arrived. They picked him up at his mothers but he told them that I attacked him with a knife so it was his word against mine so the charges were dropped. I did no such thing!
He begged me to get back with him and hounded me for weeks. I had to change my number and not go home for weeks.
We talk now, but he only bothers with his child at the most once a month. Which annoys me greatly. He moved out last September and besides the odd meal etc we are no longer together. He has abandoned me with a 5 month old at the time now 14 months and a mortgage as well as bills. It is a daily struggle to get by and sometimes I have to go without but I will never let her. After my bills are paid, I have very little to actually live off and have to borrow of my parents. He gives some money for her but despite that the mortgage is also still in his name too and doesnt help at all.
Sorry to ramble on. Just needed to lol.
xxx

Posted on: May 26, 2009 - 3:19pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi again Livy's mama

Well done you for having the strength to get out of the situation as it escalated into violence. You must have felt you and your daughter had been through enough already after the trauma of the birth. Thank heavens you were alright in the end! Has her heart murmur settled down or been treated?

It's hard when you are the one left with all the financial responsibilities :shock: I am glad you have your parents to give you some support and help. As she gets older things will get a little easier and it's very sad if her dad doesn't bother much with her. Just take one day at a time in being a good mum to your lovely daughter and try to enjoy the good things that come for free: the sunshine, her smiles, her delight in discovering the world. Big pat on the back for YOU. ;) Try and get some time just for yourself when you can.

Louise :D

Posted on: May 26, 2009 - 4:17pm

DizzyD

Hi there, I'm DizzyD and I'm a 35 year old mum to my wonderful 3 year old boy. I had the dream, the wonderful wedding and then the agony of trying for family, with a miscarriage then an ectopic and then finally 3 years ago my wonderful son entered the world. Six weeks after that his dad was made redundant and along with that went the tied house. I had to return to work early and we eventually got a house (small but at least it was a house) and that was the downturn to my wonderful life. I suffered from post natal depression and unfortunately my husband didn't know how to support me and instead of helping me, he withdrew into himself. We decided to go to relationship counselling 8 months ago and after one session he decided he didn't want to make it work and left. This left me reeling, how can you walk away from the family that you have tried so hard to conceive without even trying to make things work?? The questions of "did he ever love me at all?" and "what did I do to make this happen?" keep on spinning round my head. Since then I have gone through hell, suffering from depression, and feelings of guilt for my son growing up without his daddy there to say goodnight to him everynight. Since his daddy left, my son has found it hard to adapt to the once a fortnight weekend visits and his behaviour has changed dramatically. Everyone says that it will get better with time but I'm still waiting...............

Posted on: May 31, 2009 - 12:39pm

sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Hi DizzyD

It does get better with time - but very easy for me to say that, I know. It did take a long time.

Your son will get into the routine of seeing his dad. My youngest son had just turned 5 when we split up, and he coped with it brilliantly. Could be that having siblings helped, but we did lots of things to fill our day up too - with as much fun as I could manage.

Every night I said night night to them, and as I did when we were together, I said that mummy and daddy loved them very, very much.

It will get better, but only with time.

I can well believe the shock you feel after your husband chose to leave.

When I left my husband, a friend's husband died - she had to turn off the life support machine the same day. I spoke to the headmaster saying how guilty I felt about all that was going on while my friend was facing this nightmare. What he said to me actually changed the whole way of my thinking. My friend had no choice.

My then husband made choices. He chose others before the children and before me.

Your husband has made a choice here. And while it has come as an horrendous shock to you, he has made that decision. Please try not to feel guilty about his choices. Dealing with it is hard enough.

I'm sorry if this comes across badly - I'm not good at explaining my feelings!

Some questions you have will never be answered. I have many. My main question was why he didn't want to go back to our honeymoon place before our first child was born - I even had the money to pay - he said no. No explanation.

You'll find a lot of support on this board. It's brilliant.

Posted on: May 31, 2009 - 1:12pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hello DizzyD

Thank you for sharing your story. I know it has been 8 months since the separation, but that's not long. I well remember that it took about a year before I felt I was able to come up for air, and I was the one who chose to end the relationship. :cry: For now, it s matter of gettting through a day at a time. Before too long, you will be thinking in terms of a week at a time, and then you will know that things are getting better.

Are you getting some support from your GP through the depression? I wonder if you feel a few sessions with a counsellor would help? You may never understand the reasons your husband left or how he felt about being a parent after so much trauma....but that is his problem. As sparkling lime had said to her: "he has made that choice". Now it is time to get on with YOUR life.

I know it is hard but try to think about meeting other people, even if only to say "hello" in the playground. You could invite another child to play and have coffee with his/her Mum? If all this seems too much of a hurdle at the moment (and it might!) then have a chat with your Health Visitor who will know about facilities in your area and, for example, what is available at your local Childnre's Centre. It's really important to look after you right now, especially as you are the main person in your dear little son's life.

keep on positng, there's lots of support here. If you feel really bad, especially in the night when there's no-one else around, don't forget the Samaritans on 08457 90 90 90. They are brilliant and have helped me through a couple of bad patches in the past.

Take good care

Louise :)

Posted on: May 31, 2009 - 4:43pm

ecoknits

My story is short and to the point - a seventeen year relationship with a once-lovely man, who has been acting stranger and stranger over the past three years (since his mother died) and who is now in the full blown throes of a mid life crisis (including getting a motorbike, hanging out with unmarried and child-free friends, partying all weekend) and who decided he needed 'space'. Oh, and depression, which he is getting treatment for.

So I'm left on my own with four children, and although he keeps turning up to have tea or to pick up some stuff, he always wanders off again.

I guess I'm still in shock as it's only been a few weeks. On one hand he's saying that we'll have a few months apart to sort ourselves out (is that the royal we?) and in the next breath, saying that the house needs to go on the market and he's not looking forward to christmas on his own. *sigh*

So I've decided that it's going to just be me and the kids from now on, and I'm moving on with that in mind. He's been told that he can come for tea once a week, have the kids once a fortnight, but he can't just turn up when he feels like it. And he can't use my house as a storage facility! :!:

And yes, the evenings can be lonely. Thank goodness for the internet!

Kris x

Posted on: June 5, 2009 - 9:50pm

Bubblegum
DoppleMe

Don't let him walk all over you, set your ground rules and be firm about it, don't let him use your house as a B&B, don't try to be nice and understanding on the off chance that he may come round and return to his previous self, if he complains remind him that it was his decision to walk out, and if he still complains get a solicitor : )

How are the children coping? Resist the temptation to use them as tools against him, not saying you will but just in case you were thinking about it : )

From the language in your two posts that I've read you seam to be taking it quite well, are you?

Posted on: June 5, 2009 - 10:06pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Good advice, Bubblegum!

Hello ecoknits

This must all have come as a heck of a shock, after 17 years together, such a sudden turnaround. It reminds me so much of what happened to a close friend of mine, he had a "crisis" and they were apart from six months and got back together but on her terms. So if you do eventually reunite, don't just assume it will all go back to how it was cos now you hold all the cards ;) In the meantime you have to get your head round the possibility of a permanent separation and decide what boundaries to set. You're in charge, now.

However, don't neglect your emotional health while you are being the strong, decisive parent. Enlist support from family and friends (and here!) to help you cope with what might turn out to be a real roller coaster of emotions. You are the bedrock of your children's security and it is important to look after yourself as the lynchpin of the family.

Take care and keep posting

Louise :)

Posted on: June 6, 2009 - 1:38pm

Me and the boy

My story is quite simple really ..

September 2006 i went to a clients house / mansion warming party and met a really nice fella who i wanted to give my number to. So i passed my number to one of his friends who i had been chatting to and he jokingly asked if he could keep it. I agreed and by the time i got hom we were texting constantly. I agreed to meet him and get to know him which i did. We got on really well although looking back we don't have anything much in common! He is into nine inch nails kind of music and i am a very dance / pop / r&b kinda girl.
November 5th 2006 i was supposed to go to his for the night but was at my mums for a firework bbq and got a really nasty text from him accusing me of sleeping with another of his friends behind his back. So i drove the 25 miles to his house just to prove how much i cared and he wouldn't have it to be! Wouldn't even open the door to me. I threw stuff at his windows and everything! After a while i saw his landlord and pretended i was locked out so he let me into the flat where i was met by a rather unhappy man. I fought my corner and he threatened to throw me down the stairs.
He pushed me against the wall and kept yelling at me and i have no idea why but i yelled back 'take our hands off me i'm pregnant!!'. Maybe i knew deep down inside?? Anyways my period turned out to be late so i kept waiting and waiting and eventually on Nov 13th i did a test and found out that my not so small chance of becoming pregnant had happened!! I told him a few days after and he vowed to be the doting dad although he wasn't ready to be a father (at 36!) and arranging the name for our son (it couldn't be a girl because it had to play football) which was Wilberforce or any name from Liverpool football team. After a few days of us being back to normal he change his mind again and went awol down the pub and his shit stirring friend who broke us up the first time started all over again!
I went for my scan with just my mum in January 2007 and even took him a picture that he put on the fridge (and was still there in march!) but soon after we fell out and he agreed to be there for the baby. We never really spoke after i walked out of his house in the early hours of one morning wondering why i was bothering when he gave me the ultimatum of him or the baby. In march i found out that i was going to have a little boy and i left it a while before telling him but he wasn't interested and never asked for the picture.
I didn't really hear from him after and only saw him in march once for the very last time. I tried to contact him but he didn't answer and he text me on the boys due date to ask if he was a daddy yet. He eventually found out through his friend who was another client when my son was a week or two old.
The father now has a new gf and has been with her for a while. The bit that irritates me is that she has children by someone else and he apparently adores them!! HELLO ??
He's never seen the boy and has only paid CSA a handful of times. Denies that my son is anything to do with him but won't take the DNA test!!!!
I have only ever sent one picture of the boy to him and he agreed he looked like him. Also his sister-in-law works in a shop 25 miles away and i met her completely by accident and while talking to her she claimed the family were desperate to see the boy so i left my contact number but 6 months on i realise they really aren't that bothered by their flesh and blood! She also confirmed that the boy is his fathers child as they look identical as small children.
To be honest i think i am better off without him and so is the boy. Especially without a hideous name!!! hehehehe :D

The boy will be 2 in 4 weeks and to be honest i am doing just fine on my own with a little help from family and the very few friends i have!

Sorry for rattling on!! :D

Posted on: June 23, 2009 - 9:54pm

Bubblegum
DoppleMe

Well done and good for you, keep up the good work : )

(that's not supposed to read like I'm marking an exam :))

Posted on: June 24, 2009 - 8:28am

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

:lol: Professor Bubblegum!

me and the boy, how you have grown in strength over these last three years! You have a had a tough time and I am delighted that you have come through the worst. Hang on in there!

Posted on: June 24, 2009 - 9:37am

Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Thanks for sharing that me and the boy. Does it give you any clarification writing it all down? It seems from the beginning that he was going to be trouble, accusing you of sleeping with other men. From then on it sounds like an abusive relationship, it is very unlikely he has changed and his new girlfriend will be having to deal with him, or be very subservient, more like. Her poor children will be affected by his mood swings and temper. I feel sorry for her family.

I am so glad that you are away from it and that although there may be sadness on your part for your boy, but it sounds like he has had a lucky escape.

Have you read 'The 'good' father and the 'bad' father article in our Info Library? Its in the Abuse and Violence section. I think we know which category your ex falls into!

I bet your boy is lovely and it sounds as if you are doing ok too, its great that you have family and friends around, I hope you will help support others (on the boards) who have maybe not recognised the abuse they have received in the past.

I am also wonderinig what you do? You talk about clients? Please let us know in the 'What do you do?' online group, in the the Work and Training online group, I think it is the third one down.

Posted on: June 24, 2009 - 9:50am

sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Family and friends can help us through so much. :)

I'd be lost without my friends (other than an elderly Aunty, I've no family close by).

Posted on: June 24, 2009 - 10:05am

Bubblegum
DoppleMe

Anna wrote:
It seems from the beginning that he was going to be trouble, accusing you of sleeping with other men.

That's usually a good sign that things are only going to get worse. : )

My wife used to accuse me of sleeping with people somewhere between the house and the shops while still managing to do all the shopping. Either that or I'd met someone that I fancied more than her and was imminently about to leave her.

Posted on: June 24, 2009 - 1:49pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Are you sure it wasn't the Asda delivery lady, Bubblegum? ;) Seriously your story shows how irrational people can be.

me and the boy, we are back to "early warning signs" again, there seems to be a pattern here with peoples' old relationships. I truly think that some partners should come with a Health Warning! it would be useful if this were permanently tattooed on their necks so we could tell.

Posted on: June 24, 2009 - 2:21pm

Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I wish!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted on: June 24, 2009 - 3:15pm

sparklinglime
DoppleMe

I'm going to add

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted on: June 24, 2009 - 4:17pm

Me and the boy

My ex was really quite a nice fella and would never have hurt me. I know that sounds like denial but it really isn't. Basically he accused me of breaking and entering and thats why he pushed me against the wall.

Also if anyone was observent then you'd see that from the dy i met him to the day i found out i was 6 weeks pregnant that was 11 weeks hahaha so we were only together 5 weeks when i got caught! YIKES!!

Thanks for the kind words though, i appreciate them :)

My old job was administrator and business developer, at he moment i claim benefits and am looking to go back to work / college. I'd like to re-train as a masseuse :D I am waiting for the stupid job centre to make me an appointment as it turns out you can't just go and see somebody now! HMMMM i wonder why so many people hate going there??? lol

I guess the last 3 years of my life have been a whirlwind. On top of the birth of the boy, becoming a single parent, losing my best friend and other little things i also crashed my car at 36 weeks pregnant! This was due to the fact hat my cousin killed himself the week before and i couldn't stop being emotional about it!
And exactly one week after giving birth my grandma was taken seriously ill. Luckil she is okay now :D

My life is one big drama i can assure you!

Posted on: June 24, 2009 - 8:16pm

Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Dear me and the boy

You really have gone through the mill that last few of years. So sorry to hear about your best friend, your cousin and your grandma, life now hopefully seems a little calmer and steadier :?:

Please don't think I was insinuating that your ex was violent, abuse comes in many different forms, from playing head games to witholding money, being a philanderer to accusations. Some abuse is very difficult to recognise and others more obvious and unfortunately all abusive people come across as being 'nice' otherwise they wouldn't find partners. The trait of being 'nice' also means that the 'abused' feel that they are in the wrong because other people think their partner is great.

Anyway I will get off the subject now, you know your ex and I don't!!

I hope the Job Centre manage to get you an appointment soon, it will feel good to be moving forward with your life. :)

Posted on: June 25, 2009 - 12:08pm

Me and the boy

Thanks Anna. Everything is going well ... for now!!x

Posted on: June 25, 2009 - 8:03pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

I am glad your life is on the up, me and the boy :)

Know what you mean about the Job Centre. I went with my friend to sign on and all the staff did was moan about their jobs. My friend said "well I am free if you want me to do the job intead" That shut 'em up! :x

Posted on: June 27, 2009 - 8:26am

Bubblegum
DoppleMe

Louise wrote:
me and the boy, we are back to "early warning signs" again, there seems to be a pattern here with peoples' old relationships. I truly think that some partners should come with a Health Warning! it would be useful if this were permanently tattooed on their necks so we could tell.

Actually I think I must have some sort of floating spinning neon sign above my head that says psychos only please.

Seriously though, I've been thinking about that and I seem to have always been attracted to the broken ones, something to save maybe? or maybe it's me, maybe I just drive women over the edge :) ? maybe there is nothing wrong with them until they spend a few months with me. (ok joke) (I hope) (maybe it is true) :)

When I was a kid if I found half dead animals, birds usually, I would bring them home and make my mum take them to the local nature reserve, where they were probably just killed, b******s, anyway, maybe it's an extension of that?

Who knows : )

Posted on: June 27, 2009 - 10:38am

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi Bubblegum

I do believe that we tend to "pick" the same type of person until we realise the pattern. There is a book called "Women who love too much" by Robin Norwood and that looks at lots of different relationships where the woman thinks that she can "cure" what ails her partner, whether its alcoholism or just incapcability of forming a good relationship. I don't see why the same couldn't be true for a man.

If you have always been a nurturing person, or seen a parental relationship work that way then that could be what you equate with love. Some people look for a partner to complete their own flawed parenting experience eg if a woman has had an unhappy childhood then they look to get this bit of themsleves fulfilled in a love relationship and they see you as the one who can do that for them? Maybe you should start a secret "checklist" of what would be better in a new partner and keep it till you need it! 8-)

Posted on: June 27, 2009 - 11:45am

Bubblegum
DoppleMe

My check list would be this..

large breast
long legs
lots of money
not necessarily in that order.

:)

OK no not really, I'm joking.

But your post Louise did give me this mental image of me sitting in a trendy continental bar, you know like outside on the terrazas in the warm sun in Spain, sipping a glass of wine while talking to some woman with a note book on my lap under the table ticking boxes : )

thanx : )

Posted on: June 27, 2009 - 6:33pm

pinkgrapefruit

I too seem to attract only people with fundamental problems, a couseller that I saw breifly recommended i make a list to avoid future mistakes. So I started with 17 checkpoints. But everytime I meet someone I seem to find more things that are non-negotiatable and the list is now 27 items long! I think I'm soon to make it mathematically impossible to find a match! My top two are that my partner must be both clever and funny - why is that such a difficult combination to find??!!

Posted on: June 27, 2009 - 7:42pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Teehee Bubblegum :lol: A few years ago when I was doing internet dating I used to pop to the loo on "dates" and get my little list out of handbag, so I could remember what to ask them next.....I probably got ruled out by most of them for spending so much time in the loo! :shock:

Bec I wouldn't say your list would be impossible! And also if there are 27 items and so I guess you could tolerate 25 ticks? I agree, you should be able to find someone clever and funny, they're not mutually exclusive qualities (I mean, look at Les Dawson.... :roll: ) No, seriously, go for what you want, don't settle for someone for the sake of it

Posted on: June 28, 2009 - 4:03pm

Me and the boy

Like a lot of people i like to take in the abandoned and have a tendency to feel sorry for men! Especially those who are lonely. I need to make a check list! I think my top problem is i always go for much older men!! I can't deal with younger men especially not now as it would be like having two children :lol:

I like funny, a man who can talk to my face and not my breasts and a nice clean healthy smile :D I don't ask for much but they tend to talk to my breasts all the same! Men hey??

Posted on: June 28, 2009 - 10:08pm

Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

It is SO about what we have been looking for, or what we need, or what we missed from our childhood etc

I think it is probably all much more simple than we care to admit, but we just don't know how to go about it.

We all want caring, intelligent, honest, good sense of humour (or compatible with ours at least!), affluent (well, not scrounging off us anyway), handsome....... oh, big breasts and long legs.

My conclusion is that we have to love ourselves first, fully and properly, look into ourselves, really figure out how we tick and for the women, only go out with men that we actually like! Too many women have said that they have gone out with a bloke because he liked them, then they thought ' oh he's ok', he's not the devil and ended up in 'lurve'. We need to be more choosey and go out with men that WE want to go out with.

I think that some of us are brought up believing that a man is there to care for the woman, to look after her. In a woman's case, this means that she hands over her power to the man and in the man's case (who has the same beliefs) he turns them psycho (no only joking bubblegum!!), in a really good bloke, he seeks the woman who needs him the most, he knows he is capable of caring for her and protecting her, so he is attracted to the most vulnerable, who is unable to fix herself.

So at the end of this philosophising I say, that we all need to love ourselves, care for ourselves and know that we can't FIX or change anyone else. Thats the way they are and that is the way they will always be, regardless of how much of our love we give them.

Posted on: June 29, 2009 - 9:46am

worndownand 2tired

hello all,
im new here so thought id introduce myself and tell my story at the same time, im a single mum with a 13 yr old son and 2 daughters aged 5 & 6, my first ex i met when i was 14 and he was in his 20's i thought it was love and ended up pregnant at 15, having a very premature baby with health problems and a mentally and physically abusive partner by the time i was 16, eventually left and met my girls dad while i was out partying hard making up for all the teenage yrs id missed out on and to cut a long story short grew up and settled down when i fell pregnant for my 1st daughter by the time i had my second daughter i was a single parent again, my son has no contact with his dad and my girls see there dad when he can be bothered but am really struggling with it at the moment as he hasn't grown up and thinks things are acceptable which i don't :evil: but thats another story, anyway i am doing the best i can trying to raise my children alone, its very very hard at times but i love my children very much and wouldn't be here if it wasn't for them.

hope i haven't gone on to much, looking forward to talking to u all,

nicki x x

Posted on: July 2, 2009 - 7:54pm

sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Hi nicki

It's great to see you here.

Quote:
i love my children very much and wouldn't be here if it wasn't for them

I know where you're coming from there.

I've only been on my own for five year (3 months and 2 weeks...), my youngest is now 10, then 13, 15 and 17. The last five years have flown by.

Looking forward to getting to know you.

Posted on: July 2, 2009 - 10:30pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hello Nicki

It's hard work, isn't it? And very frustrating when you get little or no support from the other parent? :x I noticed you have the user name "worn downand2 tired" and I guess that is how it must feel at the end of a long day (or at six o' clock in the morning! :shock: )

Have you got some good friends around you? that would help a great deal and you could give each other a bit of child-free time.

Have a look at the ideas on this site, especially with the summer holidays looming, You are very welcome here and I hope you soon feel at home and that you have some new, online friends :)

Posted on: July 3, 2009 - 2:19pm

Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi worndownand2tired

I love your name! I think it encapsulates single parenthood to a tee! It does sound as if you are struggling though. To be honest I am glad to hear that your first son doesn't see his dad, not a very good role model for him, or someone that you still need in your life.

As for second partner, you are well within your rights to set boundaries about when he sees his children, if he can't stick to that, it is his problem. Have you been through a solicitor at all?

Posted on: July 6, 2009 - 12:27pm

worndownand 2tired

Hi again,
and thanks for the replies :)

i do have help in the form of my mum who is great, but she is remarried and is bringing up 2 step-children with her new husband and also has 2 jobs at the moment :shock: so she is quite busy but tries to help when she can, i dont have any friends that i would feel comfortable leaving the children with.

as for my girls dad hmmmm i dont know where to start, i havent gone down the route of solicitors as i dont feel he would bother if i did, i really want him to be a good dad and see the girls but he frustrates me, ive told him he can come and see them whenever he likes and we would work towards him having them regular on his own (he has always been on/off seeing them) so for 2-3 months he was coming down almost every week so i told him he could have them for a few hours as long as he respected that they were in my care 99% of the time so therfore he has to respect my wishes, well the first time of being able to take them out on his own (which he has been nagging to do for i dont know how long) he takes them in a car with him driving, no license, insurance etc etc, and the only reason i found out was because the girls told me a few weeks later. on top of that he takes them in ppls cars with my daughter on his lap in the front of the car :evil: :evil: and just thinks im "moaning" and trying to be difficult when i say something. were at the stage at the moment where ive stopped contact for now as i just cant get through to him that although i know he would never intentionally hurt his daughters his wreckless and thoughtless behaviour could!! i really dont know what to do for the best :(

as for my name thats how i feel atm, its not the physical side of being a lone parent that exhausts me it the mental and emotional side of it :( :(

nicki x x

Posted on: July 8, 2009 - 8:49pm

sparklinglime
DoppleMe

It's strange how tiring dealing with things is, isn't it?

He's putting your children in danger with his recklessness, so personally, I don't see what else you could have done.

Hope he comes to his senses.

(I keep thinking that with my ex - and then for some reason all the flying pigs go by...)

Posted on: July 9, 2009 - 11:23am