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nicola

Hello everyone my name is Nicola and i have 3 children ages 12 10 and 4 two girls and a little boy.
I dont relly know how tostart so please bear with me.
I have been with my partner for 13 years,and we have always had a good relationship,although he has always been short tempered,i could always deal with it as it never really got out of hand (hes never been violent just really short tempered)
It all started to go wrong over the past year,hes been out of work and money has been really tight,then on top of this we had a lot of stress when my mum died of cancer last september.Hes really changed towards me and the kids and is always acting like he is some kind of victim and everybody is against him,his temper has really escalated and he cant seem to cope with everyday upsets such as the kids answering back or my 4 year old being naughty,he just completely blows and works himself up so much that he cant let anything go and i cant reason with him atall.when i try to talk to him he clams up and dosnt want to know,then the next day he says hes sorry and he cant help it it wont happen again etc
we are arguing at least once a week and its breaking my heart because i know its affecting the kids,but i fee ltrapped because they keep saying "dad wont leave will he" ? i am letting him stay for the kids but i feel so unhappy i am walking on eggshells all the time in case something upsets him,I am also frightened to be on m own mainly financially as he has recently got a job and i am in so much debt that without his income i dont think i wil lmanage
can anyone give me some advise on how to get the kids through a seperation? i dont want them to suffer they are my world.
there is so much more to my situation,somany more worries waht will happen if i tell him to go etc
Please help
Nicolax

Posted on: October 31, 2009 - 4:08pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Hi Nicola

I'm sorry you're having such a difficult time.

I'm so sorry you've lost your mum - what a huge loss for you all.

Could it be that your partner is suffering from depression? I know this doesn't help things as they are at the moment.

When I left my ex the children were 12, 10, 8 and 5. I was honest with them and answered their questions as truthfully as I could - while keeping the replies short, didn't run their father down and always told them he loved them.

It's not easy. I was lucky in that I had very few tears. Ex had little to do with the children which made things easier.

I'm five years down the road and we're doing ok. The children seem happy and we have as much laughter as we can each day.

What ever you decide, I hope we can offer you some support and advice.

Best wishes

Posted on: October 31, 2009 - 9:15pm
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi nicola

I am sorry you are so worried and have had so much to deal with just lately, with losing your dear mum and all the money worries you have now.

You need to have really long think about whether you want to stay in this relationship. It sounds as if there are two main areas of concern: practical worries and the emotional effect on the kids. Re practical things, you could try some research. Make an honest list of all your debts and commitments and go and see your local Citizen's Advice Bureau who will help you sort out a practical plan. Next, think about housing. If you separated, where would you live? Would you have to leave your present home? Is it rented? Whose name is it in? You can also get money information and support from our own money section and individual advisors. See http://recession.onespace.org.uk/

Emotionally yes it can be a rough ride but research shows that what hurts children the most is conflict, so less need to feeel guilty if you DO separate.

If you are looking at ways of making it work, do you think your husband would would go to Relate with you? Even if he won't then you can go on your own and talk things through. Even if the two of you could find a way of resolving disputes rather than rowing, it would help. You can find Relate at http://www.relate.org.uk/Find-Your-Nearest-Service/index.html

Keep posting and we can keep supporting you :D

Posted on: November 1, 2009 - 9:26am
hazeleyes
DoppleMe

Hi nicola
I am so sorry to hear about your problems with your partner, and on top of that, to hear that your mum died.
You say that the problems really started when he was out of work. There is no excuse for his behaviour, but like Sparkling has said, maybe he is suffering with some sort of depression. Money problems and debt are a major concern for everyone, and especially if he had no job.
If you did leave, children do adapt to situations, as long as you keep reassuring them that the split is nothing to do with them, and both and your partner love them very much.
It would be a huge step to take, but if the relationship is beyond repair, and it is really what you want, then you must do what is best for you. There is an awful lot to think about.
You will get lots of support and advice here, so keep in touch ok
Take care
Alison
x :)

Posted on: November 1, 2009 - 11:36am
Claire-Louise

Hi Nicola
Welcome to Onespace and I am glad you have managed to find this site. I hope we are able to offer you the help and support you are looking for? I am really sorry to hear about the difficulties you are having at the moment as well as the death of your mum.
Sparklinglime has a valid point about checking out about depression and Louise suggested the Citizens Advice and Relate which I would recommend getting in touch with. The budget calculator on this site is really good for working out your finances too so you could try that to give yourself a clearer picture of where you are with your finances.
http://recession.onespace.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=105&Itemid=102
I know you said that your partner had not been violent but that his temper is escalating and that you feel like you are walking on eggshells, so I thought that maybe the Freedom programme might be of interested to you as it might clarify what is going on.
http://www.freedomprogramme.co.uk/freedomprogramme/index.cfm
Do you have a support circle of friends and family who might be able to help you?
Good luck with those leads and come back if you have any further support.
Cheers C-L

Posted on: November 1, 2009 - 1:00pm
nicola

Hello and thanks for all the replies,i really appreciate it.
well we had yet another incident yesterday,He got up and i teased him about feeling irritated at the kids nagging for things as we were going shopping,he was getting a little peeved at them so i thought i would make light of things by making a joke of it ,well that was a mistake as he bit my head off and i more or less had to beg him not to cause a row and to calm down as i was only joking and was sorry if i offended him.things were awkard all day until 10pm when he said he felt as though things would never get back to normal as none of us could relax around each other anymore,I asked him straight if he thought we should just split,to which he got angry and told me to stop making useless suggestions,i told him i didnt know what else to do anymore.
This morning he went to work early and left a note saying he loves me.
I feel so confused,it seems like he dosnt want to split but he expects me to have all the answers while he dosnt have to face what is wrong on his part.
with regards to depression,we both went to see the doctor,and he just gave him beta blockers,he wasnt very helpful and very reluctant to prescribe anti depressants,this is about 5 weeks back.
I dont have any friends,and only have my sister who has just given birth so i feel like i cant burden her,there is my dad but he wouldnt understand,this is where i really really miss my mum.
I am sorry for rambling but this is the only place i feel i can let my feelings out.
Do you think he is a control freak? should i just take the plunge? i want thing to work but am so confused as to whether its just for the kids sake or do i still love him underneath all this mess?
Thanks for listening
N X :?

Posted on: November 2, 2009 - 10:43am
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

We're always here, nicola :)

Do you not think he would go to counselling with you, then?

None of us can tell you whether you still love him or not, I agree it is very confusing and sounds to me as if he is hiding from problems....

Posted on: November 2, 2009 - 2:34pm
hazeleyes
DoppleMe

Hi nicola
This must be very waring for you, not knowing what sort of mood he is going to be in. Is it possible for your Dad to look after the children for a few hours, so you and your partner can sit down and chat about things properly?
It is unfair of him to treat you like this, and it needs to get sorted.
You're the only one who knows if this relationship has come to end. Its a horrible situation for you to be in, and I really feel for you.
Keep chatting on here, and everyone will offer you support.
Take care
Alison
x :)

Posted on: November 2, 2009 - 3:22pm
Claire-Louise

Hi Nicola
As Alison suggests it would be good if you two could find some time to alk about your feelings for each other and decide if you do want to try to make a go of it in which case something like Relate might be useful.
If you decide that it is really not going to work between you then to look at how to work things out with going your separate ways that woudl suit both of you and the children.
I would also suggest the Freedom Programme because although you wouldn't necessarily class this as domestic violence or abuse, it does sound like he is using a number of the tactics that are used by a domintor persona in an abusive relationship- being very controlling, inconsistent and leaving eveyone else confused and as if you are treading on eggshells. Try looking at the page on this site intially if you want:
http://www.onespace.org.uk/articles/abuse-and-violence
Good luck
C-L

Posted on: November 2, 2009 - 4:52pm
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi nicola, I agree with Louise, it would be interesting to find out about the Freedom Programme as his behaviour does seem very odd.

Quote:
he has always been short tempered,i could always deal with it as it never really got out of hand

It sounds as if you have been dealing with it, rather than him and with him losing his job, he feels like he is losing control.

Great idea to try and have some quality loving time together, how has he been recently??

Posted on: November 13, 2009 - 12:17pm