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calling all care leavers, due you still feel judged?

julie2009

Hello everyone,

i am a 36 year old mother of 2 children 3 and 18years old.

when i was younger,one thing i always promised myself was that when i grow up i would never bring up my children the way in which i was dragged up.

from as earily as i can remember, me and my silblings were in and out of care, left a home alone of dumped on my mothers friends and family. i experienced alot of abuse at the hands of my mother. when i was about 12 we were placed back in foster care, this time 6 instead of four siblings. this was the moment i was waiting for, as i refused to return to the "family " home. I witness and suffered alot in the care system and for years tried to block it out, don't get me wrong i do tell social workers, teachers, but i was the threat of not being found another foster placement and the told i would have to return to my mother i locked away, when i did speak i was believed so again locking it away.

when i was about 16 i was place in a leaving care project in the worst place ever, back into the area which my mother lived, away from my friends and there families and my then boyfriend. i was told this was the procedure, before a child leave care they have to return to the area which there parents lived. To cut a long stories short i began to feel very isocatated, i tried to get along with my mother, but all she wanted was my money, if i did have any or asked for it back, i was allowed to see my silblings and they were not allowed to speak to me, that hurt so much. i always found talking to boys alot easier then. i met this boy who as 3 year older than me, he was a friend of the girls who also lived in the living care project, he didn't have a very good up bringing and we would talk alot about that. about 2 months later i ended the realationship with my then boyfriend because of the distance, there was not phone in the project, so we lost contact, i also felt this is were i'm living at the moment and i did to give it ago. big mistake, i started dating the guy, 1 min we would spend all our time together the next i would hardly see him. i would take it to mean it was over,then he would turn up and have this big storie to tell me and i would for give him. i had never beenin a serious relationship before, so to me it was more. i remained with him for 3 years in that time, he was in and out of jail, he had a record as tall as i was, he abused me in every way you can think possible and more. i stayed with him because i had no one else. to me this was my life and i had to make do with it for the sack of our child. to cut a long story short, a left him just before my son 3 birthday, i moved into a women save housein the area i live as a child. things had change alot and i had lost contact with a lot of friends and the friends i had contact with notice a change they could see i was not the same confident person i once was.
however, the biggest time came when i was told, that i would not be housed in the area, they wanted me and my child to return to all that abuse. i found my strengh got a solictor and taught to stay in the area, which i have now been in for about 15years.

the thing is in those 15 years a lot had happen to me, good and bad, but i leant alot about myself as a person, but i do have alot more i need to learn about my self.

I've stopped people pleasing, cut negative friends out of my life,have not contact with family whatsoever, and trying to do what is best for myself and my children. however, i still feel as though i am not beign listen to. i feel i am being Jugded because, i was in the care system, because i don't speak to my family and cut them out of my life, and because i don't have "friends". they don't understand that i want postive people in my life and if that means not having friends at the moment then so be it.

what do you think, be as honest as possible

Posted on: July 3, 2009 - 12:32pm
Bubblegum
DoppleMe

I think you should do what you want to do and what makes you happy : ) and not worry about what other people think.

It seams to me that your last paragraph is the answer to your question, you know what to do and you seem to be doing it, so good for you : )

You only have to let people into your life as much as it makes you comfortable.

: )

Posted on: July 3, 2009 - 1:50pm
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hello Julie, it's good to hear from you.

What a lot you have had to deal with! And you have done so much work, noticing your own patterns and how you have locked things away and how you have decided not to people-please (gosh that's a hard one!) and only to surround yourself with positive people. WOW and DOUBLE WOW!

There's no reason why you can't have friends as long as they are POSITIVE ones. It's hard to tell at first, though, isn't it? I used to do an annual review of friends where I though about each one and what each of us brought to the others' lives...and to decide whether it was of value to me or not. That sounds very ruthless but it is the same as you, you have to find your own way of coping. ;)

It sounds to me as if you would find a lot of help if you were to see a really good counsellor to talk things through. You've done all that work on your own and you deserve to be able to see yourself as NOT judged.....

Posted on: July 3, 2009 - 2:10pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

I have three sisters. Two of which are foster sisters. Although they were with us from babies - and I do refer to them as my sisters, they do have many issues. They did have the same stability I had - one of my sister's was my mum's favourite - so yes, we were treated differently, but not perhaps in the way people would think.

One of my sister's will be 50 this year. She has many issues. She has raised her son, spoiling him rotten - it's not worked out well. She will blame that on her upbringing.

This is based on some experiences in my life. I know I type far too much! I'm not very good at explaining myself either. If I upset you, I'm sorry. I don't mean to do so.

I do think though, that you need to what works for you and for your children. With me its random awful singing and dancing (not so awful 8-) ) around the kitchen - which has the children laughing too. Makes the days so much easier...

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I've stopped people pleasing, cut negative friends out of my life,have not contact with family whatsoever, and trying to do what is best for myself and my children. however, i still feel as though i am not beign listen to. i feel i am being Jugded because, i was in the care system, because i don't speak to my family and cut them out of my life, and because i don't have "friends". they don't understand that i want postive people in my life and if that means not having friends at the moment then so be it.

It really is a good idea having positive people around you. I also know where you're coming from when you say that you've stopped people pleasing. However, when I tried this out a few years back now, it back fired. It wasn't my personality and people told me I was going through life "angry". I thought about it, and realised that they were actually right. I was actually not having as much fun with my children either, as I felt I had to keep this 'front' up.

It is possible to have friends who aren't positive. Being aware of the parts of them that aren't so good means you know where you stand with them. I have a friend who is very much a fair-weather friend - but we have a laugh, and we'll go to the cafe at the garden centre - but I know how she is and where I stand with her. But, I value the laugh I have with her.

I lost my best friend over two years ago now, and I doubt there will ever be anyone who'll fill that void left. But I do have people I can have a laugh with. You don't have to go to there house or them to yours, but it gives you contact. And you never know, there might be a 'new' best friend out there for me, somewhere.

I think trying to have just positive people in your life could be quite hard, as I don't think anyone is quite positive all the time.

You say that you feel you're not being listened to and that you're being judged because you were in care. If you've moved away, why would people need to know this? Again with your family, would it be possible to say that they live away and leave it there.

My sister had an inheritance from her father - my dad made sure that things were sorted so she did get this. She was able to buy a house (small terrace one). Instead of moving in and getting on with neighbours, she told them she had bought the house outright. Neighbours turned against her, as they were struggling to pay mortgages or rents. I felt that if she had never mentioned it - and it's no ones business but her own - she'd have been ok there. She ended up selling - although that's another story.

Once your youngest starts school, there are so many people to meet by that school gate, it could open up new opportunities to you.

Life can be lonely without friends though - although a lot of my social life is on the internet.

Posted on: July 3, 2009 - 2:23pm
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

yes sparkling, no-one can be positive all the time, you're sooooo right. I guess when I did my post about looking at friends I was trying to say that I had to see that there was a benefit in maintaining that relationship.

Thanks for your post, it is really helpful :)

Posted on: July 3, 2009 - 7:13pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Louise wrote:
yes sparkling, no-one can be positive all the time, you're sooooo right. I guess when I did my post about looking at friends I was trying to say that I had to see that there was a benefit in maintaining that relationship.

Thanks for your post, it is really helpful :)

sorry, I didn't see your reply until I typed and posted this - which think took ages...

sorry...

Posted on: July 3, 2009 - 10:22pm
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Nothing to be sorry for! Your post was great. Your support to members is always fab and it's great that you are prepared to pass on your experience. I was really glad you said about no-one can be positive all the time, you're so right! Also I think it is really helpful to people if a few of us chip with different ideas....let's face it there are no right answers (otherwise I would be a millionaire :lol: )

Take care ;)

Posted on: July 4, 2009 - 12:58pm
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi julie2009

Thanks for joining us and thanks for sharing. You have had a tough life, but like bubblegum mentioned it sounds as if you are finding your own answers and your post does sound like you are a strong woman.

I think you have grown as a person and I think we all continue to grow, only some people choose not to actually search for more answers! I did something similar to you, I moved back to the area that I spent my teenage years and consciously decided not to keep contact with old 'friends' as they were not positive influences in my life, it was hard, as I too was a people pleaser, I still am I suppose, but because I respect myself so much more than I used to, I do have boundaries in place.

So as sparklinglime says, it is possible to have friends who aren't positive, as long as you take them with a pinch of salt and don't get too involved in their scenarios, but I guess they are not real friends, just acquaintances. You sound as if you are searching for real friends and although you don't need to cut yourself off from people completely, I think you are going about it the right way. I always say this about boyfriends too, when you are looking for one, spend time on your own, get to know yourself, feel loved and respected by yourself and the right people come into your life. Positivity breeds positivity.

In your interests you talk about working and starting doing admin work. Have you thought about some volunteering as well? Is your youngest in nursery yet?

Posted on: July 6, 2009 - 11:46am
julie2009

i would like to reply to you all, how do i do this

Posted on: July 6, 2009 - 12:23pm
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Just like you did!

Just click on Post Reply button at the bottom of the messages! Good luck! Look forward to speaking shortly :)

Posted on: July 6, 2009 - 12:37pm
julie2009

Sorry, is this the same way i reply to everyone indivdually?

Posted on: July 6, 2009 - 4:40pm
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

yes that's right Julie, you just clicked the reply button below the most recent post and it goes on the board :)

Posted on: July 6, 2009 - 9:00pm
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi julie2009, the board is set up so that users can't message each other privately/individually because of single parents being a target for undesirables. So what we tend to do is either write the person's name and then the message or you can write to one person and submit, then post another reply.

I know it may seem confusing, but we have everybody's confidentiality and safety at heart.

How are you today? :)

Posted on: July 7, 2009 - 12:20pm
julie2009

Thanks Anna,

i don't think i am explaining myself correctly,

there are other users who have replied to my topic's. Do i reply to them through my post or do i go to there topic and then reply.

for example Bubblegum has replied to my topic, she has asked me questions, where do i go to reply to her questions. Her topic or my topic?

Im so sorry i will get the hang of it soon,

Posted on: July 7, 2009 - 1:01pm
Bubblegum
DoppleMe

You should reply to them within the same post, here! it's sometimes called a thread, like I have just now, I've replied to your post with another post within the same thread : )

Hope that helped.

And I'm a him not a her : )

Posted on: July 7, 2009 - 1:16pm
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi Julie, no worries :) The best thing to do is to reply on the topic you get asked the question on, no matter who started the topic. If you want to make a comment on another topic (started by someone else) then go on that topic and click reply and you can either put a general comment or a person's name and what you would like to say to them about that topic. Do bear with us, we want you to join us!

Louise

Posted on: July 7, 2009 - 1:19pm
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Bubblegum you made me giggle! :lol:

Perhaps it is easier to think of all topics as conversations? Maybe??!

When you log in you will notice that if there are any messages that you have not read then the circle to the right of the group goes red.

If there are too many messages from previous months that you don't want to read, you can also click on 'Mark forums read' (on the top of the 'Welcome to the Parenting Alone Online Group' page) that means that when you come on again, only new messages will be red. So you don't have to keep re-reading everything.

Does that sound really complicated? Probably, any more questions, please just ask. We don't want to confuse you and we don't want to lose you!! :)

Posted on: July 7, 2009 - 1:30pm