Snowdrop

Hi. Found this site by accident a few nights and it's already helped me so much!

 

I was just wondering what other people's experience of sorting out residency have been like, and if anyone has had similar experiences to me.

 

I left my husband of back in May, following years  of domestic abuse; he had been physically violent in the past when our two children (now aged nine and ten) where very young, but not recently. In the last few years it was more emotional, verbal, and financial abuse, and he is very very controlling and manipulative. Final straw was our youngest child, aged nine, telling me they were scared of their dad's temper and that he hit them when I was out at work.

Without going into too much detail; the children and I are living in a rented house in the same town as my husband.

We are trying to sort out residency. CAFCASS have not done a full report ie. have only briefly phoned myself and my husband and in their opinion the abuse  is historical and we should try to mediate a solution re residency. They  think both children are old enough to tell me or a teacher if they have further concerns.

 

I very reluctantly offered husband a draft residency agreement of one overnight mid week, plus on alternate weekends, the children would reside with him from after school on Friday to 4pm on Sunday.He turned that down. This is also what the children said they wanted. 

 

He is now asking for joint residency, eg. each parent has them alternate weeks, Monday to Monday, with the Wednesday night being spent with the other parent each week. He suggested this at the last court date, I said no, but the children have been with him (and his parents )all week and on the phone last night my eldest sounded very stressed and blurted out that they had had a 'new idea' about how things would work and that they had agreed with dad that they were going to take it week about in each parents house.

I know that works for some people; if anyone here is doing that, I'd be really keen to hear what makes it work. i am worried that it maybe only works when parents have good communication and we really don't; my husband is still clearly v angry, and although he does not show this in any obvious ways, eg never emails or speaks to me, he is showing this subtly; telling other people I'm an unfit mother, suggesting I left for another man, being hostile when collecting /dropping off children etc.   I am worried that he is trying his best to subtley manipulate the children and telling them the above too. He is also very involved in organising a local voluntary sports team, the children are also involved, he coaches them at this, and  I am anticipating that  he will expect me to bring the children across town to this on the week they are supposed to be with me (their training night is the night i offered him an overnight, and I'd also stated I'd bring them to any extra fixtures). He is also in leadership in a local church; again, i am anticipating he will put pressure on me to bring them there every Sunday. 

 

Sorry this is soo long, I'm just so tired with everything, I thought the hardest decision was going to be leaving him, and sometimes I just feeling like giving in and doing what he says just to make it all stop... I have emailed the legal expert here, hoping they can help.

 

 

 

Posted on: August 19, 2012 - 6:58pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Hi snowdrop.

I hope the legal expert can offer some helpful advice.

I haven't been through this, and its awful if the children have been pressurised into this.  If it is what they want to try then perhaps that's different...

A friend of my youngest has shared residency, which began from about the age of 4.  It works very well.  The lad is great and equally happy with which ever parent.  I saw a lot of the parents when my son was playing football, and got on well with both. 

They did communicate though (I don't see them often now since my youngest started secondary school and had to give up football), which I'm certain is the most important thing.

I am sorry you're facing this.  I can only imagine how incredibly difficult it is.

Posted on: August 19, 2012 - 11:41pm

Anna
Online
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi snowdrop and welcome to One Space Smile

Well done for making the decision to leave your husband, this can often be the hardest decision (I know I felt this too)

You have not been separated very long at all and from experience, men who are abusive try to continue the abuse through the children and the courts.

If you don't think that shared residency is right for your children ie it will have a negative effect on your childrens wellbeing or they are not physically safe in his care. Then you need to stick to your guns - your children need you to be strong and stand up for what you believe is best for them. They are going to be swung both ways, he sounds like he is manipulating them and this can be confusing for them.

Your feelings and thoughts are probably still very much controlled by him and his actions, without you knowing it, are you in touch with your local domestic abuse service? It would be good to get some support through all of this.

Your ex husband sounds like he is quite a prominent figure in the community, which may add to any feelings of inferiority/confidence you may have, so the more support you reach out for the more empowered you can become.

I know of couples where shared care works ok, but the biggest issue seems to be that the children don't have the right books, games kit, stuff for projects each week and that makes them feel unsettled, but if both parents are working in the best interests of their children this can be overcome.

The bottom line is, do you want to stick to your original offer? If so, find your inner strength and go with it. Do not be swayed by what he is saying. Do not try and manipulate the children. Once they are home again, let them settle in for a few days before you raise the subject. Let them enjoy being at home without any pressure or decision making.

I know you want to just give in, but that is his tactic, if he wears you down enough, then he can have his way, well this time Snowdrop, he has to work with you.

When are the children home?

Posted on: August 20, 2012 - 11:34am

Snowdrop

Thank you sparklinglime and Anna. It's really encouraging to know that shared residency can work; if my husband was better at communicating, and if I thought he'd be flexible and considerate it could work really well for us; for example, there would be nights during 'my' week that the children might need to go to his sports club, but equally there could be nights during 'his' week when  he needs to work / has a meeting, and since i don't work evenings, I'd be so happy to have the boys...but I just don't think he'd do that, I think he would pay a babysitter rather than admit he needed me. 

I'm not sure the children are at risk from him usually; one really significant thing is that in leaving and speaking out he has  realised he can't just hit / intimidate the children to get them to behave, and that if he does so again they will tell teachers etc.   He can actually be a really good dad a lot of the time, and they have had a lovely time with him this time. i think when things escalated,  he was just repeating the same parenting he had, his dad was very strict and authoritarian and I think when my husband is stressed, he kind of goes into default mode, and starts to act like his dad did with him.  And so for him to have them for a full week in the middle of busy school term and work for him just wouldn't be good. So I do think that at least for the next few years they would be better with the plan i originally suggested. 

 

Anna that's such a helpful suggestion about leaving it a few days to ask them about anything, really helpful. Bit worried because we haven't come to a decision yet an they go back to school on 4th September, and next court hearing isn't til 18th September. Worried that he'll expect that we go with his plan, regardless of what the children or I think.

Posted on: August 20, 2012 - 8:59pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hello Snowdrop

I do not think the children should be too heavily involved in decision about the pattern of parenting time, they are still quite young and this is something that needs to be sorted between the two of you. I have seen shared residency work really well but you have hit the nail on the head, the parents need to have a decent and co-operative relationship. The children's dad sounds as if he is still struggling with a lot of issues from your relationship and this is something he needs to deal with. Maybe you could start out with the pattern of contact that you have suggested and feel able to be open minded to review this in time.

Posted on: August 21, 2012 - 9:09am