midgeymoo

I'm sorry.. But i just need to talk.. I feel so alone on this one and though my parents are a great support in my life i don't wish to keep burdening them with my problems, they have a life too to enjoy.. I feel such a pain to them..

If i don't do something soon or find someone to help, then i'm sure i'll ruin any chance of a relationship with my youngest son.. We clash all the time and i don't know what to do and i'm not sure if i can explain this very well, but here goes..

Hes 8 years old, 9 in March. Hes a sensitive little man, picks up on others moods and emotions, the feel of clothing on him and if it irritates him or not, if  hug is to tight, if something smells good or not, sensitive in many ways. He can be happy one minute and frustrated/angry/over the top/destructive/or whatever the next and this flows as such throughout the day. Mostly though hes angry with me and with that comes attitude, demanding things, shouting, ignoring, saying 'i can do what i want anyway'. Hes loud as in will talk nicely one minute and then shout at you the next in a matter of minutes, he plays his music loud, the tv on full blast all as if he is trying to drown something out? He will antagonise his brother to the point his brother loses his cool (and that takes a fair bit of provoking), he'll keep pushing to get a reaction. I step in to stop whats happening and he ignores me and continues or shouts at me saying its always his fault or says 'i'm not doing anything'. I try to distract him, move him gently in another direction or to another room (he will fight me to stop me doing so), or i will move myself and his brother to another room and he will follow and continue. He carries on to the point he loses his cool to and then will either lash out at his brother, or start shouting at me and then slamming the doors, kicking stuff on route to his room (cue loud music).. If i dare to spend any time with his brother he will talk over us, butt in or come and voluntarily join in despite my saying i will be playing with/spending time with him too.. When i come to play with him, he then pushes me away, only to come back later and say can we do so and so or to tell me i don't spend any time with him.. If i buy his brother things for football, like new boots this weekend because hes outgrown them then i'm not fair and i'm mean because i've not bought him something.. Badtimes are a nightmare, once in bed he can't settle and spends the next few hours pottering about his room or coming out for various reasons, bad nightmare (even though hes not even been asleep) or needs a hug, some water etc.. He eventually crashes out exhausted 10 - 11pm most eves. Mornings are just as bad, getting up is not good, he has to then make sure i smell the milk in case its off, comb his hair down so it doesn't stick up (he refuses to get it trimmed up and has not had it cut for 6 months now).

I'm so sorry to go on, but i need to get this out as i feel i'm losing the plot. I feel depressed about it all and i don't know what to do? I've been on at the school for the last 3 or 4 years (he stuggles at school too with learning especially in maths and english), i've finally got a CAF referral and i managed via the Dr to get an educational phycologist in for which i am awaiting the outcome of the tests they did with him. As for his dad, well thats pointless, hes on my back about me having had the CSA on to him (another story on another forum :-(), and i told him about the CAF etc only for him to turn round and tell me that they had that with his stepson and proceeded to tell me about how wonderful his stepson is now, no mention of his own son or offer of help or anything, Nothing!!! Mind you i don't think i really expected any more, plus though my son loves his dad, he is angry with him too, but he takes that out on me.. I just feel like my sons punchbag at the moment and i'm finding it hard not to get wound up in his anger and frustration, i feel so helpless..

The thing is deep down i know what i need to be doing, but i'm struggling to do it.. Afraid maybe? I think i need some help too.. I feel ashamed to admit that i resented my youngest from birth. Please don't get me wrong, i loved (and love) him dearly with all my heart. My ex hubby and i split before he was born due to his affair with his now wife resulting in the birth of my childrens half sister who is 7 months younger than my youngest. At the time of my pregnancy i was dealing with divorce proceedings, the sale of our home (pkus unexpected structural work on it prior to the contracts being signed), finding my unborn child, oldest child and myself somewhere to rent - privately as i wasn't eligible for a council property, moving house and then awaiting the birth and sorting out childcare arrangements. Once my youngest was born, i was expected to play happy families with my ex and his new family and just slot in.. The first 6 months of my youngests life were a nightmare, with him not sleeping well and feeding lots, me with my emotions everywhere (though i did seek counselling prior to his birth) and so on, i resented my own child through being so angry with my ex..

Then, when youngest was 5 months old i met someone and we dated and eventually i moved in with him in another town, so i upped sticks and started afresh.. This too as i now realise wasn't a good move and (see old posts on another forum) i eventually split up with him last year after 4 years or so of deciding what to do as such.. He was very much a man of control and it took me a while to realise this wasn't at all right for my boys and i. He loved my oldest child but just didn't get on with my youngest and i became very protective of him during the relationship..

So now here i am, in a right state and trying to figure out what on earth to do or if i can do or seek more than i have done (with CAF etc). I just feel so miserable and i hate being at loggerheads with my own flesh and blood all the time. I just want to understand him, to know whats making him feel the way he is. I just want to be a good mother and guide him through life the best i can without failing him.

Sorry, so long i know, but i just needed to talk and let his out.

Thank you for listening if you reached the end here x x

Posted on: January 26, 2014 - 11:36pm
Sally W
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi midgeymoo, your right to have got that of your chest, it is not good to have this going around and around in your head.  It is great that you have been honest about how difficult your relationship with him has been from the start, that must have took alot of courage to say.

It sounds like you have already made a start on things by getting a CAF done and getting an educational physcologist.  It may be worth waiting for the results to come back to see what that says rather than jumping in with something new.

You say you know what you need to do, but your struggling to do it, can i ask what this is? can i also ask what boundaries you have in place? have the CAF assigned you a support worker?

Posted on: January 27, 2014 - 8:27am

flowers

good luck with everything, my heart goes out to. This is a lot to take on as a single parent, no wonder u are feeling so low in mood i think anyone would in this situation. i hope u will get lots of support as u really need it. hang in there u can only do what u can your not superwoman .dont b hard on yourself either.

Posted on: January 27, 2014 - 10:30am

midgeymoo

Thanks :-).. My little one was showing me photos this morning before school of him as a baby and toddler and was asking questions about what he was like, who we were with, where we were living etc.. I answered them all holding back tears so as not to upset/anger him in any way, because when i look back at those photos i realise now how wrong my relationship was with my now ex partner, how it was all just so wrong and it was right before my eyes and i didn't see it or if i did i chose to ignore it.. I know i'm not making much sense, i know the past is just that and cannot be changed but i kick myself for not having been a better mother, for being with someone i obviously wasn't ready to be with having not long been out of my marriage.. I know now that i was swept up in the fun of a new ralationship, being wanted and all that goes with it.. I kick myself for how hard i tried to make the realtionship work to the detriment of my own child/children, and for how i put my then partner above them, his needs and so on.. I guess we all make mistakes, and i know i'm not likely to repeat them with the knowledge i have now, but all the same it hurts..

I'm struggling to be firm with my youngest because i realise our relationship is on edge, but i also realise he needs me be to be firm and fair and is probably an added reason to the way he behaves now?? I know my own anger and frustration is not helping, anger and frustration towards myself because i feel helpless to move forward when actually i know thats what i need to do.. I just feel so alone and i feel the need for someone to guide me a little, point out perhaps where i can make improvements and to encourage me to pat myself on the back when i make progress..

As for barriers and boundries, i'm really struggling with this too.. I feel i have set them, but maybe he doesn't understand them or i'm not consistant enough?? If he hits out, then he loses out on something (full tantrum follows though i stick to my guns), If he back chats, i tell him i won't listen to him speaking that way and when he can speak nicely then i will respond. When i give the answer 'No' to whatever it may be, i try to phrase it as, either you can have so and so at/when but not right now, or just a plain and simple No.. either way i'm in for pressure to change to a yes - whinging, shouting, mean words, annoying his brother and so on which i try to ignore but then when he hits out or gets OTT i obviously don't ignore that, i move on to deal with that and so it goes on.. I keep mornings and bedtimes as consistant as possible and the t.v. on weekdays doesnt go on until after school (but is not on all the time) and is off by 8pm.. between then and bedtime i spend time with my boys playing, chatting and being with them, bedtime is pyjamas, teeth, read story whilst quiet play and lights out, Classic FM on..

When they go to their Dad's everything goes tits up upon their return and it takes me a good few days to return youngest to normal.. Ex hubby doesn't listen to anything i ask of him, never has, just does it his way and thats it.. So bedtime there is DVD on, go to sleep.. Mornings are stay in your room until i get up.. If i were to ask him to help me with anything re our boys, he would say yes ok, but then just not follow through.. So i guess i feel held back by that too..

The CAF form has apparently been sent off today so i should hear something hopefully in a few weeks. Until then i've no CAF support worker or anything, its just me banging my head against a brick wall and muddling through everything (not just this, but trying to rediscover me and just a wee bit of time for myself thats not spent on sorting/tidying the house etc, searching for a job with more hours, dealing with CSA and ex hubby, and getting my ex partner to accept things are over and i will not keep meeting up with him and his children more often)..

xx

Posted on: January 27, 2014 - 4:02pm

Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi midgeymoo, oh bad luck you really are carrying it all at the moment aren't you. First things first though. You are doing a grand job.Laughing

Yes you might have made mistakes in the past (didn't we all!) But you have learnt from them and made active choices to improve life for yourself and your boys, so for that you MUST give yourself on the back.

We need to affirm all the good things that we have done, rather than dwell on the negative stuff. I think in general you do do this, but it is just a reminder, as we all need a friendly one of those. Smile

You made a conscious decision to leave your ex, it was hard, but you did it, taking everyone's opinions, feelings and thoughts into consideration.

I think when we are in the midst of a break up we believe that if only we were 'free' everything would slot into place. Unfortunately life isn't like that, however we do need to keep taking baby steps into the future and life does shift.

You have said yourself that in the past your focus was coping with the difficulties arising from splitting with your boys father and then in more recent time the emotions of splitting with your recent ex so it probably did affect your parenting, however you are now back to you, back in the driving seat. Your youngests behaviour is showing itself because you now have space to see it.

When children play up it is often because they are feeling unbalanced or insecure, however you if you continue to be consistent with your parenting (which it sounds as though you have lots of parenting skills and techniques under your belt), I would suggest keep doing what you are doing and this will pass.

I hope you don't have to wait too long for the CAF to get back to you, but in the meantime, your little one needs lots of loving and supporting that you are not going anywhere and that you think he is a fabulous little boy. Don't forget to keep telling your eldest this either!

Although it may not feel like it, you are now in the strongest position you have been in for years. I believe in you, and as I said before keep taking baby steps forward and be kind to yourself.

Do you get any time for yourself?

 

Posted on: January 27, 2014 - 7:40pm

amars

you sound like you have a lot of patience and for that you are doing really well when i split from my wife i had resentment why did i marry her? why did i have a kid with her? i found a 3 year old very hard to handle alone i never regretted splitting from her cause she could be nasty sometimes with my lad but i regretted having to look after my lad alone cause too be honest i never really wanted kids didnt think i was dad material anyway unlike you i use to lose my patience sometimes with him and end up shouting anyway 7 years later he is a little angel but 1 thing i regret he wont express his feelings to me or anyone else i tell him sometimes he is too well behaved and not to be afraid of saying what he needs to say to me, teachers or friends his teacher tells me he wont ask questions when he is not sure of something now i worry have i taken his confiedence away with being too impatient when he was younger i made so many mistakes when he was younger i wish i could go back now and be more understanding towards him perhaps i never realised fully how hard it was for him aswell so you sound like you are doing fine in a really hard situation and anna is right about showing them love i have never been good at expressing love but now trying to make special effort for him

Posted on: January 27, 2014 - 9:13pm

midgeymoo

Thank you again :-) I appreciate you listening and offering support and your own experiences, i don't feel quite so alone..

I've tried to do (and keep trying) all i can to keep life as stable as possible for my boys, aside from my own troubles and issues.. I guess my little one feels pretty unbalanced/insecure at the moment and i do try to understand what he is feeling, its just so difficult not knowing whats running through his mind..

 I've just settled him back to bed for the third time this evening :-( he'll be shattered again tomorrow.. It seems to be the only time he wants to talk, when its all quiet and theres just me up.. I listen and try to refrain from responding, but i feel hes reaching out even though its only a little and i fear to ignore him would make him retreat further.. so i nod, give one word answers, tuck him back in and tell him i love him.. Some evenings though if i'm tired or have had a rough day with him/work etc.. then i lose patience a little and snap at him as i just want to sleep myself.. Its always been like this in phases with the odd phase being great for bedtimes..

So as for time to myself.. In the evenings its spent putting him back to bed or catching up on what i need to catch up on or needs to be done for the next day.. I usually get a Weds each week when my parents are round and every other Saturday affternoon/eve and Sunday daytime when my boys go to see their dad.. I try to get out to a class or something on a Weds and out with friends of a weekend..

and how he used to behave like my youngest does now.. My mum was focussed on him, my dad was at work, and i just did my own thing and got on with it and tried my best to be good for them and help where i could.. my mum was a softy with him but used to get upset and frustrated with him too, my dad used to get frustrated and cross with him and shout.. i don't resent my parents, they loved me jjust the same and were doing what they needed to do to look after my brother and manage his behaviour, but i did feel left out.. And i don't want my oldest to feel that way.. I sometimes feel that i am mirroring both my parents in the way i behave with my youngest whilst at the same time feeling guilty for my oldest being 'left out', even though i'm fully concious of this and i don't leave him out, but it still feels like i do..

x x

Posted on: January 28, 2014 - 12:02am

Sally W
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

It is so difficult to get the balance right at times and even when we do have it right we still put ourselves on a guilt trip, i think your doing a great job midgeymoo.

It sounds like your son needs lots of reasurrance before he can settle down and go to sleep, you could try starting the bedtime routine earlier so that he has the time he needs to discuss or get the love and reasurrance.

My youngest went through a phase like this it takes a while but eventually it will pass.

Posted on: January 28, 2014 - 8:07am

Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi amars thanks for sharing what is/has been going on for you. Unfortunately i was the same with my daughter. I would lose my temper, felt as though life was unfair whilst also coping on a low income and Court dates, solicitor letters and harrassment from ex. My daughter too became a little angel, she daren't put a foot wrong. Even after I calmed down, so I do understand where you are coming from. However we can't change the past, we are only in control of the future and as long as we are aware of what we are doing for our children from this day forward, that can only be a good thing and it is never too late. 

A fun game we used to play was, I love you because.......and we would take it in turns "because your eyes look like chocolate buttons", "because you said sorry when you tipped cream all over the carpet", "because you hug me when I am angry" "because you told my friend she couldn't play with my favourite teddy" etc. You will be surprised what they come out with!

Keep going both of you, you are doing a grand job Smile

Posted on: January 28, 2014 - 6:45pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

That's a great game, Anna, I will pinch that idea!

Midgy moo, while I am not saying "leave your oldest out" I do think it sounds as if having some individual time with both children would be a good idea, your youngest clearly finds quiet one to one time beneficial and thinking about your own childhood experience, you don't want the better behaved son to feel overlooked. It feels as if this would be a stretch in terms of time but if you think about the time, emotion and consequences of what is going on now, it would actually be easier.

Posted on: February 1, 2014 - 8:21am

GoodEnoughMum
DoppleMe

Hi midgey moo

I'm coming to this a bit late so haven't fully read all the replies so apologies for any repetition.

Tt sounds a lot like there are many things at play here.

First there is your LO's personality which is difficult, most likely because of his sensitivity.  Managing that sensitivity even when there are not other emotional issues going on is hard enough.

Second there is your guilt over the way you felt about him and your past relationship and the effect of both those things is still being felt in your house today.

And third there is the way he is chosing to act out his anger.  How he is behaving is unacceptable however, because of the other factors mentioned above it is very difficult for you to see a way to help him.

So my suggestion would be to try and unravel these three threads so you can deal with them more easily.  For his sensitivity I would highly recommend reading up about sensitivity in children.  I really like the book "Raising Your Spirited Child: A Guide for Parents Whose Child is More Intense, Sensitive, Perceptive, Persistent, and Energetic".  

There are other books too which focus on the shyer kind I think - like "The Highly Sensitive Child".  I definitely think you can gain understanding from reading these books.  Things like transitions can be very difficult for sensitive children so it's really common for parents to experience a roller coaster of a day such as you have at your house.

Also, being highly sensitive to emotions (as my son is) makes parenting difficult as they do pick up on it.  You seem to be damned if you do and damned if you don't. i.e. if you tell them you're upset they'll get upset and if you pretend you're not they'll know instinctively you're upset and may guess wrongly as to the cause.

For me I have decided to go down the explanatory path but being careful as to what I say.  So for example, with looking at the pictures he could know you're upset and assume it's with him.  

Instead, you could say (as you're looking at the pictures) about how proud you are of him, what a lovely baby he was, you could talk about how he found sleeping hard as a baby so you had to help him a lot (what did you do - rock him? Sing to him)

Emphasise that babies are like that - they cry when they're uncomfortable and talk about how hard you worked to help him.  Then he will feel your love and he will enjoy any stories - if something funny happened especially.   Or even my boys like to hear about when I accidentally hurt them, because I talk about how scared I was and how upset I was but how they were fine.

Once he is hearing all this positive stuff, and especially if you can get those laughs in, you can tell him it was a hard time for you personally.  You can tell him that you and his Dad were not together and that made you sad but you knew it was for the best (this is where you do some creative story telling).  

You can talk about how hard it was for you but you got a lovely gift in him which kept you going.  Tell him that looking at the photos makes you cry a bit because you remember how hard that time was and how sad you were and how you wish you could have been happier.  But again bring it back to the positive - you are such a special boy, I feel so lucky to be your Mummy.  Yes times have been hard but we are a family and we love each other.

I would also be honest with the boys about your last relationship.  Explain that people make mistakes and that you and he loved each other but it wasn't the right time to get into a relationship like that or you weren't right for each other or whatever is the closest!  

I think being honest about it is important because they need to know grown ups are not perfect and it's not all their fault.  This is especially important for the youngest one who got the dislike vibe from him and then by association, you.  Again focus on the positive of how you can now be just the three of you and what a great family you are just as a three.

All of this is a lot easier to write down than do, but if you can do it it may well make an immediate difference.

The one thing that really stuck out to me reading your post was how different he is in your family.  Not only is he different because of his sensitivity but he was disliked by the step dad and now his behaviour is isolating him in your family.

It's really important with boys especially, to keep trying to connect with them.  As much as possible, and as many times as possible in one day.  A good book for this is "Playful Parenting".  It talks a lot about how to connect with teenagers and some of it might be very applicable here around the loud music and him isolating himself.  

For example, using touch in an appropriate way (clapping on the back, a quick hug as you go past or anything that allows touch like thumb war).  Also, using humour, if he's got his music too loud, get dressed into a crazy outfit and stand at his door singing along crazily.  It could just work!

Obviously, you do need to address the way he is dealing with his anger.  This anger issue is spiralling out of control.  It's not going to get better on it's own as he is doing it now because it is a) his only way to express his confusion/upset, b) a habit and c) it feels good.  Or at least it feels something.

Having a family meeting is always a good plan.  Say something like "we're not having enough fun at the moment" and calling it a meeting for that rather than "how can we improve LO's behaviour so he can come up to the level of the rest of us".

Start with making a huge list of what everyone thinks is fun.  So what they would find fun on their own and what they would find fun one on one and as a family.  Don't discount anything anyone says or try to figure out the logistics of it, just write it down.

Once you have the list figure out which things you can do anytime and which things need to be organised or need money (like a holiday or an activity that you would need to look into/need to be older for).

Come to an agreement about the first fun thing you're going to do and when it will be.  If you can plan the next few fun things even better.

Try and get this list to include all three of you equally and you will need to take it in turns to get what you want.  I would recommend a rule that says even if the other two people don't like the idea of it, everyone has to try it with an openmind and to try and have fun.

Decide to take photos and make a scrap book too as this will give you something positive to get out and look back on.  

Once you have this and everyone is fired up and positive about it, it would be a good opportunity to talk about things that might stop this working.  Try and think of something from you and brother not just from LO.  

So for example, for you it could be that you might get busy and not prioritise the fun things, brother might not want to try new things, LO might get angry and not be able to take part.  Ask them for their thoughts and you might be surprised at what they come up with.

Everyone then needs to commit to watching out for those things that might "scupper the fun"!

Another day I would plan some time alone with LO, once you have done some prep.  Talk to him about how you really don't want his anger to stop him joining in with the fun.  

Some useful things might be to teach him to think about how his body feels when he is angry.  Does his breathing get faster, does his heart beat fast, does his tummy feel clenched.  Talk to him about how calming those physical signs can really help someone to feel more clear headed.

As an example you can think of a time when he made a huge drama out of something he later regretted if you can think of something like that.  Let as much of it come from him as possible.

Talk to him about how shouting, throwing, kicking, hitting, punching etc. are not appropriate ways to express anger (can he think of a time when those things made him feel better?  Probably not), but feeling anger is very necessary and he shouldn't repress it.

How else can he express it?  Sometimes we need to let the anger out before we can get to the feeling underneath (fear, sadness etc,.)  My son scribbles it out.  Some people advocate yelling into a pillow.

What can be really powerful is if a child can do this with you there then they feel safe.  You can either be quiet or you can back it up with "you seem really angry" or "wow something has really upset you".  To avoid it escalating, having you there you can step in either with comforting words or I have even been allowed to give a hug!!

Children very often don't feel safe when they are angry so you might find loving him and being with him is better than walking away (obviously not if you are in danger).  As you start to work on this with him I would definitely explain to the brother your plan and tell him that you will be sending him up to his room at times and that you would appreciate his support in leaving.  That will take away the two against one feeling LO probably has and will allow you to listen without getting angry yourself.

In between outbursts, continue to talk about how he is doing.  It's not usually any good trying to have a deep conversation about cause of the anger while they're flared up, but when they're calm you can often have a good conversation - just keep it casual and not judgemental.  You often find they can get to the bottom of it themselves.

A basic example of this is once I picked my son up from reception.  I wasn't late but when I got there two other parents were talking to the teacher and I had to wait 5 mins.  Eventually the teacher called him out and he shouted at me that he was so mad at me.  The teacher immediately stepped in and explained.  He said sorry and I left it then but later that night I went back to it and asked him why he was angry.  If course at first it was superficial level "I was mad" "you were late" but eventually we got to the bottom of it.  He was bored waiting and he was scared I wouldn't come.

I was then able to reassure him that I would always come and also teach him some techniques around how not to be bored (which is an ongoing problem!)

I suspect from what you say your son is angry with both you and his Dad.  The anger he has for the Dad is all surrounding him not living with him and his new family who he obviously prioritises over LO.

You are right I'm sure he takes his Dad's share of the anger out on you.  I don't think you can change that.  You can take heart from it and think he feels safe enough to do it with you so that's a compliment, but unfortunately, you're unlikely to stop it.  The one thing you can do, however, is listen to it and sympathise.  Get him to talk about how it makes him feel and instead of getting angry or defensive back just say supportive things like "that must make you feel so sad".

You need to balance it out with positives though I found as my son started feeling really hard done by and then blaming his behaviour on the fact his Dad doesn't live with him!  To counterract that we have done some charitable things, but also the whole fun with you thing will help with that.

 I hope this has been helpful.  It's just based on my own experience so it might not be applicable to your situation, but I just felt so much for you and wanted to be supportive.

You're doing a great job!  Try not to beat yourself up.  You did the best you could with what you had at the time, but look at you know.  You're in a much better position and now you can focus on building a little close knit family.

Love Gem

x

Posted on: February 1, 2014 - 1:35pm

midgeymoo

Lots of tears reading the last post, sorry, just the enormity of it all i guess, so much to deal with, makes me feel afraid i suppose, silly i know.. I do appreciate your support and your helpful and kind words, thank you..

My dad experienced a flare up from him on Friday evening (i went out with a friend so my parents looked after my boys).. My dad said that LO annoyed his brother before eventually launching himself at him so my dad said he didn't know what else to do except for restrain him as in hug him and hold him and help him to calm down before a) he hurt himself and b)hurt his brother or anyone else.. :-( He asked my dad to 'tell mummy' when i got home about it?? Saturday morning he was fine though and played nicely with his bro before i dropped them at their dads?? I'm expecting him to be angry on his return because when he arrived at his dads he asked to go to the park and his dad said no because he had lots to do around the house, had his ex wifes husbands LO to look after (?? weird set up) and was having a poker eve with his mates and then he turned to our LO and said maybe tomorrow if i've got time (aarrggghhh!!)...

I have read the books mentioned in the past and could probably do with reading them again. Transitions and changes are a big thing for my LO and always have been so i know i need to find something to help with this, advance warning, days events etc..

We have photo albums and a box of loose photos and we frequently get them out to look at, i talk to my boys about their baby/toddler days, about their dad and i about how and why it didn't work out but that we both still love them very much and i speak about how i and everyone else makes mistakes in life etc.. and they will talk to me about how they feel about it all and they ask questions that i answer as honestly and carefully as i can :-( I do think that maybe i need to bring in more of the positives about re my LO about him be lovely and special, and i do need to speak about how bedtimes have always been difficult for him..

I do attempt to connect with him and he can be a very cuddley little boy when he wishes to be, like yesterday he was very cuddley but this is a rare occasion. When he shuts himself away i do go up for a little chat, ruffle his hair, kiss him on the head or give him a little hug, i've always been that way with my boys anyway. And i have been known, not to don a crazy outfit, but to go in and do a silly dance just for the chance to see him smile or giggle with me.. I try to talk to him and my oldest too when they are engaged in an activity like drawing or crafting and the like as i find i get converstion out of them better that way..

We don't have a family meeting, but this sounds like something we need to get into the habit of. I did try it when i lived with my ex partner and his 3 children but was told by my ex it was pointless and that his 3 didn't like it :-(.. I tried so hard back then..

Every summer holidays (6 week break) we go out and about and take photos and they are all stored on a memory stick and we play a slide show to watch them, we had mini videos too..

I did at one point spend a fair bit of time on his anger issues, we had an angry pillow which i encouraged him to go take his frustration out on, but then he liked the pillow too much and now its a fixture on his bed for comfort.. Talking to him about how his body feels sounds like a great idea though.. and talking to him about how shouting, throwing, kicking, hitting, punching etc. are not appropriate ways to express anger would be a good idea too, along with the intro of a suitable less harmful way to let it all out..

I don't think it helps that at the moment i'm working 1:1 with a young boy (4yr old) with Autism at the local primary school where i'm employed. He has outbursts, yelling, kicking, biting and furniture throwing and communication is near to non existant.. Its hard work, rewarding in terms of the small steps he makes but hard work.. I am looking to going back into support work with adults with learning disabilities as i have done this before and its where i feel most comfortable..

It doesn't help either that perhaps i feel a little resentful at times and lonely.. Resentful that i put all my efforts into looking after everyone - work, family, my boys, the house - and i forget myself (i know thats my own doing though and the kind of person i am).. I feel lonely too though as i would like that someone to care about me and feel doubtful that will happen based on past relationships.. But saying that, thats for me to work on. I need to realise that i am a person with needs too and that i need to meet those needs in order to meet the needs of others if that makes any sense..

Anyway, eyes dry now.. Rest of day to myself but plenty to do thats just piled up over the week unfortunately. I guess at least its just me so its a bit of respite/recuperation for which i am grateful :-)

Thank you for listening x x

Posted on: February 2, 2014 - 11:41am

GoodEnoughMum
DoppleMe

Wow midgey moo I am in complete awe having read your post.

I'm glad a couple of the things I suggested were helpful.  Sometimes we do things for a while and they work a bit then we stop doing them.  Going back to them can then be really good.  You are amazing how much you have done!  You sound like me - constantly trying really hard.  That's all we can do.

I can't believe your ex was so unsupportive about the family meetings - nevermind that's the beauty of being alone.  You can follow your gut instincts and do what is right for your little family.

I applaud you for the work you do at school but I really want you to not be doing it!  I have a friend who is a SEN assistant and she is not even a single parent and she finds it tough to have anything left at the end of the day and you just sound absolutely drained dry.  It's no wonder with such a challenging job.  

When I was figuring out what I was going to do with work I looked at my life as a whole and where my responsibilities were.  I looked at how I am solely responsible for the house, myself, the boys etc.  I thought about having a responsible job and I decided against it for now because I didn't think I would cope with it all.

I'm not suggesting you're not coping but actually look at how much you are doing and how much responsibility you have got in your life and just be amazed at yourself!  Give youself credit!  You do need to have balance in your life, however, so are there other ways you can get that?  For example, could you get a cleaner?  At least in term time, which would then free up your spare time to either be with the children or when they're not there be out with friends etc.  Are there other ways you can make your life easier surrounding the chores you have to do like prepping meals (for example my boys have school dinners to save me cooking for them every day).

Also, what kind of support do the school/county offer? I would imagine with a job like that you should be able to access some sort of counselling?  If so, take it!  An hour to think about you every week is really valuable.  I run a helpline for cancer sufferers and I get counselling myself for that.

Back to your son's anger, did I tell you my son got counselling?  It was a group thing.  I live in Surrey and we were referred to Surrey Family Mediation Service by CAHMS.  It was an 8 week course with other children of a similar age all having experienced the loss of a parent through divorce.  It was really helpful for him although it did get worse before it got better.  They did a lot of art projects and it was just a really safe place for him to talk about stuff he couldn't with me.  I'm not sure if there's anything like that where you live but I hope so.

You are doing such an amazing job with your kids, especially your angry LO.  Your situation sounds really similar in that my ex often puts them right to the bottom of his priorities and that does make them sad then angry.  My sensitive one is highly susceptible to this.

I find by focussing on my time with them and making sure I do the things they want to do when I'm with them it does help.  For example, they waited a year for him to take them to a particular swimming pool (which I couldn't take them to alone as I am too short - hard to explain!) but in the end I organised childcare and took them one at a time.

I do a lot of talking about how Daddy will do what he thinks is best and that he loves them even though it doesn't always seem like it.  I try to emphasise the benefits of having his step siblings around.  It's hard because they are given a lot of material things and my two aren't but also he takes them on holiday but not my two which upsets them/me a lot.

The other thing I've done just before Christmas was get really super strict.  I felt like he was using his sadness/anger as an excuse for his behaviour.  I was also really unhappy with how ungrateful he was for what he had.  I'm not suggesting you do this btw just telling you about it!  Anyway, I removed literally all the toys from the house.  I left them with a puzzle, 3 cuddlies and a toy each plus downstairs we still had dressing up clothes and art supplies.  

It was really drastic but I wanted to prove to them that they didn't need all the stuff they had.  There was an immediate improvement in the difficult one.  He seemed suddenly less all over the place.  Home became incredibly calm!  The flip side was I had to plan activities more but we got into a really good routine.  

They would come home and we would sit up at the table together for cuppa and cake (whereas before they'd be in front of the TV and id be in the kitchen) then we would do an hour of "homework".  They're a bit to young to have actual home work (Yr R and Yr 1) but we would do something with letters, something with numbers and then a game of some sort.  They also did little art projects like DS1 made a calendar with a different picture for each month.

I was lucky I could do this because I only work in school hours so I felt I could really focus on them when they got home.  They also have school dinners so I only have to get a sandwich ready while they're doing their "homework".  We would then eat together.

The other thing that made a difference was that they then got half an hour free time and half an hour with me, which is when we did reading and anything that needed my focussed attention like talking in depth about their day or planning future projects (DS1 has been doing much better at school since he now does these additional projects at home that are related to the topic).

This routine has been really powerful for us in making a difference.  The only thing stopping it working is me not committing to it because I'm tired/ill/stressed.

Since then I have bought in the toys gradually, we have sorted some out for charity and we have learned about different charities (atm we're doing Water Aid) so they are much more grateful for what they have.  My DS1 has stopped claiming his life is ruined, but he has not stopped grieving even 3 years on.  I'm not sure if he will ever stop tbh - he is so sensitive.

I've just read this back and it's really muddly!  I hope it helps you feel less alone if nothing else.

Love Gem

x

Posted on: February 2, 2014 - 6:37pm

midgeymoo

Boys back from their dads, LO and i at each other soon after he came in the door with my parents.. All calm again now (for the moment).. I asked if they had gone to the park today and LO said they did but not with their dad as he stayed at home to do housework (and recover from his poker night!). They went with their step sister who they said treated them like toddlers and bossed them around.. :-(

Your last message was not muddley at all, its helpful thank you :-)

I have done a lot when i think back, but it never feels enough especially when i feel like i haven't got anywhere if that makes sense.. 

I've had a naff afternoon, tired, miserable and sat trying to figure out what to do and where to start and achieved nothing except feeling a tad sorry for myself that i'd not gone out and done something :-( Only self to blame..

I'm appreciate that not suggesting that i'm not coping but actually, just lately i'm feeling like i'm not.. I get cross with work too because i'm doing 8 more hours than i was (i'm doing 16 hours now) and i'm only £3.70 better off per month!! Seriously! I too frequently look at how much i'm doing and how much responsibility i've got in my life and i feel overwhelmed by it all at least once during the week.. i'm amazed at how sane i still am! My hours don't help, i work 9 - 9.30am each day, come home, clean, prep food, apply for jobs, grab a quick workout every other day before heading back to work for 11.15am - 1.15pm which involves sitting with him 2:1 in the dinner hall followed by an hour hovering around/following him outside at play over lunch. I then head home, have my lunch, have an hour then turn round and pick my LO up from school and meet the oldest at the bus stop. I'm trying to find something where i can work a couple or 3 full days per week which will make sure that i also have an income during the school hols plus time with my boys. My parents are great and have said they can help during the hols, i'm so fortunate to have such thoughtful and supportive (and helpful) parents..

I have been on and off with counselling since before LO was born so have access to a counsellor when i need to offload as such, trouble is shes a tad expensive to see on a regular basis. I prob do have access to counselling through work and will check that out to see if i do..

When i was with my ex partner, things really came to a head at one point (which signalled the decline of the already wobbley relationship) and i sought help from Children in Separation and Divorce which led to my two having play therapy for 6 weeks.. No issues arose and my LO didn't really say much apparently, he just played and told the therapist the things he wanted to do with his dad.. She said he appeared to be fine with no anger issues etc?? Maybe through the CAF referral i can access CAHMS, i will look into it..

I try to focus my time with my boys and make sure I do the things they want to do when I'm with them. LO wants to go swimming we go. I've taken them indoor climbing because they wanted to try it. My oldest loves board games and puzzles so i do that with him (along with distraction from LO), LO loves writing, drawing, art and craft so i make the time to do that with him when he asks to. I make time to read to them, play figures, dance, play football and other outdoor sports in the nicer weather.. I don't stop :-( Maybe i need to arrange childcare so i can do some one to one stuff with my boys somehow.. either ask my parents if they could help by having one of the boys over at the weekend and then change it another weekend?? or perhaps i could find a babysitter or something?   

I have the t.v. off at a set time and i make sure i have an hour an eve where possible for us to do something together or different things but together in the same room. I use it as a wind down before bed too, quiet activities with no t.v. blaring.. I try to make sure i have all my chores, job apps, food prep, phone calls etc all out of the way before they come home (it usually falls apart on some days though as Weds i also work 3 - 5pm at an after school club for additional needs and Friday with a young autistic girl in the afternoon at school). LO is a fussy eater so stays to school dinner once a week (fish and chip day) and on the day they have pizza (every other week), oldest is much the same :-(

The only thing stopping me from committing to a routine of any kind is for the same reason as you have said Gem, because I'm tired/ill/stressed..

x x

Posted on: February 2, 2014 - 10:08pm

Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Midgeymoo, I think you are doing a brilliant job! You are very conscious of your children's needs and work hard to ensure that they are well cared for both emotionally and mentally.

Life as a single parent is very hard, especially when you are doing a 'caring' job outside of the home too, with no-one to unwind with or any support around the house. I think we just have to accept that we can be tired/ill/stressed and that may disrupt routine, but that is normal in everyone's life. Nobody is perfect.

Perhaps you could give yourself a bit of a break? What you say to yourself is very important and creates how we view the world and our life. Its all very well Louise, Gem and others telling you that you are a great mum, but can you start telling yourself? 

Posted on: February 3, 2014 - 11:06am

GoodEnoughMum
DoppleMe

Oh midgey moo I wish I knew you in real life.  I would come round your house every day and tell you how well you are doing.

It's so hard when we feel like nothing is making a difference.  It is though it just indefinable!

Getting a different job looks like a major priority.  Meantime cut your hours back - it is absolutely soul destroying to work more than 7 hours for no pay which is what you are doing.

The other thing you mention, getting grandparents to take one at a time is great.  Bill it as a special day with them.  Sometimes I do this with my Mum.  She likes nature and birds and things which I really don't so she does that with one of them while I have a day with the other.

It actually makes you realise how good you are as a parent when you just have one at a time.  It's a lot more fun and you can really appreciate them and not get annoyed with the arguing....because there isn't any!

Sometimes when one of mine is on a playdate, the other one and I go into town and buy a piece of clothing for them or whatever we need to do (last time is was sandpaper because DS1 wanted to make a pyramid!!) then have tea out.  Obviously you have to budget for it but if you can swing it it just makes a nice change of pace.  My son said "thank you for spending time with me" after we did it last week!  I feel like I spend a lot of time with him but I wonder if he doesn't really "count" it if his brother is there!!

I wish I could tell you how good you are and have it stick.  My name is GoodEnoughMum for a reason!  I battled with this feeling for a long time.  I still struggle with it now but it is a lot better.

Keep going midgey moo!!!

Gem

x

 

Posted on: February 3, 2014 - 12:44pm

Sally W
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Your right GEM, the individual time is so important as they don't actually count the time your with them all together, my 13 year old let me on to this a few years back, for them it is not the same as having our undivided attention.

You are a great mum too and your a great source of information and support to others on here.

Posted on: February 3, 2014 - 7:57pm

midgeymoo

Evening.. Finally got LO to settle down and off to sleep this eve around 10.30pm :-( He was in tears this evening saying that no one loves him and his friends and his teachers just think he is stupid :-( I listened with a lump in my throat..

I've been thinking lots the last few days mostly about the things Gem has mentioned, its spurred me into thinking sideways as oppose to blinkered about it all.. I've been writing scribbled notes here and there and am just trying to push myself into action.. which i shall do :-)

Thank you Gem and to everyone who's posted for being so supportive, i don't feel quite so alone now :-)

Will let you know where i'm at and how things are going soon x x

Posted on: February 4, 2014 - 11:59pm

Sally W
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Will look forward to your up date midgeymoo, Big Hug coming your way.

Posted on: February 5, 2014 - 8:14am

GoodEnoughMum
DoppleMe

Well done

x

Posted on: February 5, 2014 - 8:54am

midgeymoo

Sorry.. Bad few days :-( Just needed space to talk, let it out..

Rang Parent Partnership (they helped me to give the school a nudge re the CAF referral) to as if my CAF referral had been recieved... and NO!! it hasn't!! The SENco teacher, my senior/manager at work filled the form in 2 weeks ago yesterday with me, i signed it 2 weeks ago today.. all she had to do was send it off!! and NO! she couldn't even do that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So angry and frustrated i am, i want to scream.. Its not good enough, so i will be going to see the headteacher not as an employee (thats another story) but as a parent to lodge my complaint! Re being and employee, i'm being totally left out of the loop with the little lad i work with even though i am classed as part of the team.. what team!! I am the very last to know anything if at all despite speaking up and asking to be kept informed!!! Thursday, the little lad kicked off 3 times in the first half an hour of the day, the colleague i work with in the morning session walked out frustrated, leaving me to deal with it!! If i walked out every time i was frustrated with him i would not spend much time with him.. Am totally rethinking the whole work thing anyway, looking to reduce my hours or change jobs and perhaps look into some voluntary work and study at some point in the future because i'm just so fed up with all the disorganisation where i am..

last night and this evening were dismal with my LO and i, both angry, both in tears, both apologising and then hugging tightly before bed.. Its crazy :-( I've put nothing in place as yet and feel pretty disappointed in myself. I'm not just disappointed for not having done anything, but also because i keep allowing myself to get caught up in anger and frustration with my LO, and because i am looking to go out on a date or two.. I'm cross with myself for wanting to go out on a date because i am letting my LO, letting my sons down by not being there and by not working on the issues with my LO..

Lost track now, babbling, cross, frustrated so am heading for bed now, sleep it off and start with a clear head again in the morning.. x

 

Posted on: February 8, 2014 - 12:00am

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hello midgeymoo

I hereby give you permission to go out on a date or two! You need some time off and it is about balance, not about us being slaves to our children. You are not without support, your parents are so helpful. Lean on them and feel a bit less stressed.

I hear how frustrated you are with the job and with the school dragging their heels over the referral and it's good that you are complaining about this

You have had so many good suggestions given to you on here , but it can feel overwhelming. Perhaps you could focus on three things:

1. Plan a half-day with each of your boys (with your parents having the other boy)

2. Have a cool look at the job thing. You need to do your 16 hours to receive Working Families Tax Credit. Applying for jobs is great but don't overdo it. Do your hours of work willingly but then that's that. Food prep can be done the night before...and clean your house thoroughly once a week then halfway through the week a quick run through with the hoover and a skim round the kitchen and bathroom. Buy a timer and set it!

3. Every evening, some CALM time with your boys. Take the heat out of bedtime. Say to each boy, quietly and calmly, you have until X (time) to share what's going on then at X (time) you need to go to your room and relax, we all need to relax and be quiet at the end of the day. You need to make yourself available for that slice of calm time but then it's boundaried.

I hope that doing these things will give you a greater sense of control over the situation. I think that is what's at the root of what you're feeling right now.

Posted on: February 8, 2014 - 9:47am

midgeymoo

Feeling a little calmer, sort of, well today anyway..

So my thinking (and chat with my parents) led to the following ideas/considerations..

Work - return to being a midday supervisor as oppose to working with the little lad every lunchtime (as my dad said, he can see its making me feel frustrated and unhappy).. I'm looking at this as a temporary fixture, a step back for a short while in order to move forward.. In moving forward i mean looking for another job (and having the time to apply for those jobs properly), considering returning to the health and wellness industry (where my passion lies) and look at the possiblities of setting up circuit training/boot camp (conbined with advice on healthy eating) classes for ladies and/or massage (mini massages - head; hands and arms; or feet at local playgroups??).. Or considering volunteer work in mental health (samaritans; Together??) with a view to study in that area in the future and looking for Support Worker vacancies??.. Not sure how to tell the school though and am looking to give this week as notice plus 1/2 term.. Or the other thing i thought about (if they wish to negotiate as such, sorry that sounds mean doesn't it, but i feel this needs to work for me too) maybe if i am with the little lad on the days hes in for full days (3 days a week) and normal Midday supervisor for the remaining 2 days when hes in half day??..

My LO's bedtimes (ideas we chatted about) - Starting the bedtime routine earlier (pyjamas and teeth, read and chat, music on and lights out). Perhaps spending time with my oldest first (chatting, quiet game/puzzle/jigsaw) and then settling him to bed (he will happily lie and read to himself or do his wordsearches once settled in bed and puts things down once the lights go out). Followed by then doing the same with my LO, therefore giving them both time to be alone with me. Obviously bedtimes have gotten later and later for my LO and therefore my oldest too, so, my dad has offered to purchase a workbook to try called 'what to do when you dread your bed' for my son and i to work through (both boys even, and me perhaps?) which guides the user through a good bedtime and how to achieve it, inc bringing bedtime back to a suitable time with ref to their age.. Another thing i have considered is perhaps either sitting outside their room to read my book for a bit and if he comes out, putting him back in bed, no words spoken, each time he does so??..

 I know this is going to take time, so eves out dating, meeting a friend or whatever (whilst my boys are with me) will be on hold for a few weeks (i can still go to a fitness class early eve instead but be here for bedtime, and out on a date, if i feel like it, when my boys are with their dad).. I thought it may be best to tackle bedtimes first as tiredness can contribute to mood - anger, frustration etc.. So i thought i'd see what improvements occur (if any) once i've helped him to get more sleep.. Does that seem sensible?

I'm also going to try to tackle my own anger/frustration and try to learn ways to stay calm in the situations that i'm presented with with my LO - if i can't get a grip on it, how am i to expect my son to? I've found a book called 'Cool, Calm Parent' and it has lots of good tips in which i'd very much like to try (one at a time)..

I've been thinking about time spent watching tv and computer etc of and eve and am looking to set up a timer so that it automatically turns the tv off at a set time each day.. I don't watch tv of an eve unless we have a movie night so won't bother me and if that happens to change i can always over ride it if i wish to watch something..

As for the whole school senario re my LO.. I am considering asking about a home/school diary so that i am more aware of whats been happening at school. Thought it might help me figure out why he flys off the handle some days after school.. And i'm definately going to speak to the headteacher re the CAF form. I will just makes a final check to see if the CAF has/hasn't been found before i go in and make my complaint..

Thats all my thoughts really.. will see how it goes i guess :-) x x

Posted on: February 10, 2014 - 12:13am

Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

midgeymoo, no one can say that you are complacent! It sounds as though you have some really good plans here.

Often when we focus on one thing the rest will fall into place or become easier, so remember small steps, I think dealing with bedtime is a great start, as you say, it will help everyones mood. I think my daughters bedtome routine took about two weeks to settle when I changed it, the key thing being consistency. Reading outside of his room is useful too, you are not too far away, the first time he gets out of bed you can tell him quietly that it is bedtime and he is to stay in his bed, then he knows what is expected of him. After that you don't need to explain yourself. This can get very frustrating if he gets up again and again, but knowing this almost helps us to prepare and then work through the frustration.

Let us know how it goes.

Posted on: February 10, 2014 - 10:32am