Lucy Parsons

Hi folks, I'm back after another long absence - I've had breast cancer and just finished six weeks of radiotherapy. I'm doing pretty well, and I'm due back at work in a couple of weeks. I've been keeping very busy during my six weeks' sick leave, so the following problem is unlikely to be because I've had to much time to think - just the opposite, I rarely do let myself sit and think about stuff.

SO, what I really, really need is some help in the thought-rut I've got myself into over the past few months... I've been split from my ex for nearly three years now (we have an eight-year-old son), but I go to sleep every night and wake up every morning with resentful thoughts about him and generally why-oh-why did I ever have a child with him, and why did I not leave him when I had the chance near the beginning of our relationship. This is now boring, exhausting and potentially damaging - I desperately need to kick myself out of this rut with some cognitive behavioural tricks or something! ANYTHING! I'm desperate to move on but I just can't seem to change this record.

What's really confusing is that I have no desire whatsoever to be with this man, no physical desire either - and in the scheme of things he's actually a pretty decent co-parent and a great dad to our son. While there are some things about him which drive me crazy, those are mostly the reason I didn't want to be with him in the first place, so why can't I just MOOOOOOOOVE ON?! I just truly want to get on with my life, but I'm so stuck.

Any tips and advice - including CBT tricks, seriously, I can't afford therapy! - will be hugely appreciated. BTW, I'm generally known as a really positive person, I've dealt pretty stoically with a lot of s**t over the past six years - so this is not very characteristic.

Thanks in advance,
Lucy
XO

Posted on: April 15, 2012 - 11:06pm
Lucy Parsons

Er, thanks Juiliuseste, but I don't speak Catalan - or is it Portuguese?

If you've got a Spanish version - or even better an English one - that'd be great.

Thanks,
Lucy

Posted on: April 16, 2012 - 9:55am

Anna
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Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi Lucy welcome back, long time no see!

The other message was spam, so it was deleted.

Great to hear that you are recovering well from the radiotherapy. It can really take it out of you.

I have a friend who has found some really useful CBT online, I will find out from her and get back to you on that.

So you have been having resentful thoughts about your ex? And you feel as though you are spending too long dwelling on those? Here are a few of the positives

You adore your son

Your ex is a good father

You have a reasonable relationship with ex

His family support you and your son

What are the things that are bothering you? CBT is about changing your thought patterns. You say that you need to move on? Are you feeling trapped living where you are because of your ex and his family? Are you envious that your ex has met someone new and you are holding the baby?

Please share some more about what is going for you.

Posted on: April 16, 2012 - 10:33am

Lucy Parsons
Hi Anna, thanks for replying so quickly. Here's some rather long answers to your questions...
 
'Are you feeling trapped living where you are because of your ex and his family?'
Yes, despite the many positive things about living here, I do feel trapped - and stupid. It was my idea to move here to my ex's country over six ago and (oh the irony) I believed it would cement our family and give our son a really emotionally stable environment to grow up in.
The stupid bit is why I ever imagined that would happen - there was always a lot of conflict in our relationship, and we both had a history of this with previous partners, so it's hardly a massive surprise that it didn't work out. So why did I move country with him?!
I feel like I lack the basic ability to make pretty crucial judgements about life.
 
'Are you envious that your ex has met someone new and you are holding the baby?'
No, it doesn't feel like it's about him having met someone new, and we were separated for two years before they got together as a couple. And while I sometimes feel it would be nice to have a partner, the truth is I'm still very content to be single. The last three years have been a wonderful rest from having to cater for Some Bloke, and I'm very much enjoying being man-free - and sex-free too, lord knows I've had enough of all that!

He actually does a fair amount of holding the baby, and he's a fun and responsible dad when he's around. Of course I'm the one who does the vast majority of the boring, day-to-day stuff and the all-through-the-night stuff - but that's the case for loads of non-separated mums! And, of course, I would never dream of leaving my son for five days and nights one week, three days and nights the next, in order to live my exciting, responsibility-free life in another city - but compared to what loads of separated mums have to put up with, that's nothing, and I've got it pretty good.

'What are the things that are bothering you?'
It's true my ex was a tad shady about when he first started to feel strongly about his current partner, but I can honestly say that it's not even that that bothers me - after all, it's hard to for anyone to be totally clear about these things, even to themselves. I've not exactly been an angel in past relationships! And the fact is, I was so knocked-for-six by having two miscarriages that particular year, he could have been sh***ing nextdoor's dog and I wouldn't have noticed...

However, the consequences of that deceit remain hard to live with, and that's what continues to eat at me, that's what I'm desperate to move on from. Those consequences are that if I'd known five years ago that he was capable of feeling that way about someone else, during a time when I was majorly in need of emotional support, I would have seen very clearly that our relationship had no future. Our son would have barely been three years old and I could have cut my losses and moved back to my country, my friends, my family, my language, my culture, etc - all of which have been very hard for me to live without. The wrench back then would have been taking my son away from his lovely family here after only having stayed here a year - but I believe that he would have been young enough not to be too badly affected, and we would still have been able to maintain the connections.

So does this help explain why I might be dwelling on the past?

BUT - I made the decision two years ago to 'grow where my son has planted me', as someone rather sweetly said, and make the most of my life here. And that's what I've been trying to do, despite periods of mild depression - enjoying the extended family, making new friends, joining groups, learning the languages, loving the mountains, having my family & friends visiting from the UK - and I've honestly had such a great time during this sick leave for radiotherapy!

Does that explain why I'm so sick and tired of dwelling on the past?
And why I feel that changing my thought patterns could be a genuinely useful short-cut to moving on.

Thanks for reading if you got this far, Anna!
Lucy,
XO

Posted on: April 17, 2012 - 2:07pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hello Lucy Parsons

Anna is off today but will enjoy reading your post on her return, I know. And I see she is looking for some online CBT for you.

I would like to say three things to you....WELL DONE you fab girl for getting through your radiotherapy, hope you are getting plenty of rest and beginning to feel a bit more like you.

Secondly here is a great book that you might like to read about relationships.

Finally, without wanting to sound like a giant piece of Gorgonzola cheese:

We cannot change the past, but we can change the future, and we begin to do that with our actions in the present smiley

Posted on: April 17, 2012 - 6:05pm

Lucy Parsons

Thanks Louise!

XO

Posted on: April 17, 2012 - 11:08pm

Mich
DoppleMe

Hi Lucy, well firstly...yes, you are one strong lady to be getting over your radiotherapy.Plus, I do think you are being very hard on yourself...

You seem to have analized the situation and know what it isn't about, but I think you are still beating yourself up about feeling that you can't make any good decisions with your life, or still feel that you are a bad judge of character?

I think you should 'let go' of this, and also realise that you will never really know why he did the things he did anyway.

Just give yourself a pat on the back for keeping it all together and supporting him for as long as you did.Remember you weren't the one who was insincere....you will never know why he did what he did, and to be honest...it doesn't really matter in the scheme of things...I remember once my ex saying that he wished he had 'gone about things differently', and I could've said all manner of things to him then...but didn't bother because it didn't really matter to me any more anyway.We could all say that we wish we hadn't had children with our ex's or wish we hadn't even met them and got involved with them...and it's like saying I don't regeret my past, just spending it with the wrong people, but at the end of the day it's all part of life's experiences to deal with, and get past...and gain strength from...

Now is a really good time, to just look to the future, I know I go on about Pual McKenna, but I do think his 'I can change your life in seven days' CD put on an I-Pod would really help you...as it's all about re- organising your sub conscious to start letting go of old ways and being ready to accept new ones...All I can say is I'm living proof of how much he has helped me....

Good luck xxxx

Posted on: April 18, 2012 - 4:19pm

Anna
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Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi Lucy

Thanks for your message, you have obviously given this much thought.

Don't feel stupid for making a decision 6 years ago. At the time I am presuming that you were absolutely sure that is what you wanted to do - and I don't blame you!

Ok, so we all make mistakes, but it is how we deal with them now that is the important bit. As Louise says, we can't change the past.

I have found some CBT online that you might find useful.

Living Life to the Full - is one that a friend recommended to me, however I don't find it that inspiring, but it is short and simple!

This one CBT Self Help looks very thorough and very good, although there are a lot of resource sheets, if you chose to not do it online. But I like it!

Here is a list of other online CBT courses.

You can get through this, it is all about changing thought patterns. Which CBT online course, do you think you will go for?

One question, if money was no object would you move back to the UK with your son right now?

Posted on: April 18, 2012 - 4:46pm

Lucy Parsons

Hi Anna, thanks so much for all the CBT references, I'll check them out as soon as I can.

One question, if money was no object would you move back to the UK with your son right now?

Almost certainly not - my lad's from here now, we moved when he was just 20 months, he's got a lot of very close family and same-age cousins on his dad's side living literally across the road and round the corner - and all my in-laws are absolutely wonderful people. (Oh, apart from my ex's brother! His partner has recently been confiding in me about how useless/ abusive he is, and what a terrible, terrible mistake she made 15 years ago. I can't help but nod wisely.)
Plus, my boy speaks both local languages (tho' English with me), all his best mates are here, he goes to a great school at the bottom of a beautiful mountain...
And, of course, much as it wouldn't bother me if I never crossed paths with his dad again, I really do want them to have their relationship, and I truly value what my ex gives/ means to my son.

I just can't wrench him away from all of that, even though it would make my life easier in many ways. If he was unhappy, I would be too - and I'd never forgive myself.
But a helicopter parked out the back for popping over to see my UK mates - that's what I'd buy if money was no object. Oh, and our own flat, a tv that works, a fridge that works, a car, a decent pair of trousers...

XO

 

 

Posted on: April 18, 2012 - 9:57pm

sparklinglime
DoppleMe

smiley

I'm glad your son is happy, as somehow that helps so much..?

 

Posted on: April 19, 2012 - 8:12am

Anna
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Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Ha ha! So you want to be where you are, but with a fast track home as and when you need it!

How is your flat? Are you having a lot of probs with fridge, TV, car etc? Are you thinking that if you were in the UK everything would work better??

What no decent trousers! Is it time to invest in some?

Posted on: April 20, 2012 - 3:56pm

Lucy Parsons

Thanks, Sparkling - yes, he is happy, though I'm 95% sure he'd be happier with a sibling or to, but there you go, not much I can do about that one. That's up to his dad now!

Anna - believe me, this end of the month I can't really afford a decent meal, let alone a pair of decent trousers. And no, I don't think all my things would work better in the UK... But I do reckon that over there you can be a middle-aged hippy-ish woman, with knackered household appliances, a kitchen from before the Ark, a shared car that sounds and looks like a tractor (it's not a tractor) and scruffy clothes... and just about get away with it.

As one of my friends back home said a few years ago, there's no European equivalent to the British middle-aged (and lower middle class) woman. I'm not quite sure how she knows that, but I reckon she's right.

Anyway, people here are soooooo pristine and I know only one woman with a kitchen like mine and she's a total hippy, she's definitely not the normal Northern Spanish type. In fact, most unusual - she's brought up her 16-year-old twin girls completely on her own, as the (British) dad legged it as soon as they were born and her mum died when the girls were five.

BTW, don't get me wrong, MY FLAT IS CLEAN! But the kitchen is really old and however much I scrub it, it just looks depressing. The boiler-repair man came this morning and, once again, I found myself making excuses, emphasising that I'm only a tenant - the implication being that if it was mine I'd have ripped the kitchen out years ago and put in a state-of-the-art one. Yeah, right.

But hey, I'm just comparing myself with most people here, and I should definitely know better than that by now.

Whatever - today I've been feeling G-O-O-D, and I'm sure it's mostly because I've felt able to let some stuff out here.
Thank you all!
XO

Posted on: April 20, 2012 - 11:01pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi Lucy

Glad you are feeling G-O-O-D Laughing

That is so interesting that you have heard there is no European equivalent of a British middle aged woman who lives in downbeat clothes and surroundings, I had better not emigrate then! Wink Mind you, I was reading the other day that if you work at home (me, a lot of the time!) then you "should" wear make up and business clothes and shoes (so I am off to get a pinstriped suit immediately Tongue out)

What are you doing over the weekend?

However, we are all ourselves and we can celebrate that!

Posted on: April 21, 2012 - 9:09am