HELENZ

ive been going thru this helll now for nearly 9mths, got told the LA wanted to get my child adopted,it went to a 3day trial and I WON the bench said they would not put an adoption order in place as its for my sons best interest to be returned back to me his mummy. Now when i got told the LA were going for adoption there words to me were you do no that went the magistrates make that placement order thats it, thats final.......well they didnt make that order they want a rehabilitation order back to me, & after all that now the LA wont change there care plan, there apealling against the decision. There saying that my son could be emotionally harmed, well i think there doing that all themselfs the poor lad doesnt no if he is coming or going, hes asking to come with me at the end of are contact sessions, there the ones now messing with his head, when all along ive said i will work with them, done all and more to prove myself, now its my child that is suffering. What was the point of going to a trial if they had no intention of going with the magstrates decision???????/ have anyone else been in the same situation, who can give me a little advice of what will happen, i no its going to go in front of an appeal judge soon, im so angry that if they would of got there "placement order" i couldn't of done anything, coz it hasn't gone there way, they have the right to do all this.!!!!!

Posted on: June 18, 2013 - 5:26pm
She Ra

Have you got a solicitor?

have you got a court order saying your son needs to be returned to your care? 

Im wondering if its because their appealing is this binding them time for him to not be returned.

 

Posted on: June 18, 2013 - 5:36pm

HELENZ

yea ive got a good solicitor n great barristor, when the mag's said they would not put the adoption order in place they didnt put any care order in place, im back in court this friday, probably to get the date for the appeal judge to hear the case, ........they can have time coz the more time i have the better the LA said they couldnt consider a rehabilitation order bk to me till 12mths has pasted where they pulled that figure from no one no's n they got questioned on that, n its been since oct already..........its just so f'ing wrong they dont get there way coz the bench thought it wasnt the right way!!

Posted on: June 18, 2013 - 5:40pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

How frustrating for you, Helenz. As you say, it is now eight months since October anyway. Glad that you have a good solicitor and barrister. I hipe so much that a permanent order is put in place, sounds to me as if the LA are ticking yet another set of boxes. When will it go to court again? or is the appeal just behind closed doors?

Posted on: June 19, 2013 - 7:04am

HELENZ

Hi Louise, frustrating is an understatement!!!!!!!..........back in court friday but that is to tell the magistrates that the LA won't change there care plan, and they are appealing, i feel like my s.worker is out to prove a point this is her 1st case and she doesnt want to loose it!!!!!!!!! not that its a family shes trying to brake up. As for when the appeal is, won't no till friday when we'll get the date, i've been told it will be pretty quick, and depends on what judge we get (how bad is that!!) you get told your son can return home, to get pulled right back down with this, it sickens me how they can get away with so much. 

Posted on: June 19, 2013 - 10:38am

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

I was definitely getting that feeling, Helenz, from what you were saying, that somebody is trying to prove a point, how sickening, it is you and your son that are affected by this. Good luck on Friday.

Posted on: June 19, 2013 - 1:17pm

HELENZ

thanks Louise,

I no thats what it is, she doeant want to loose her 1st case, ...when she give her evidence she just crumbled, then the manager had to give some to cover the cracks the s.worker made, but the manager just made it worse, they were both usless, ........n there's a child in all this that is getting more confussed by the day, asking to come home with me, or for me to get in the car with him, ..........but it just gives me more strenght, to fight n fight n fight till the very very end, i will get my child back,

Posted on: June 19, 2013 - 3:36pm

Sally W
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi Helenz, just wanted to wish you Good Luck for Friday, have you had any contact with the Family Rights Group ?

Posted on: June 20, 2013 - 9:28am

HELENZ

no, i haven't.i've never heard of them....but i will now thanks Sally x

 

Thanks, i just pray that the judge will see "again" that the 1st decision was the right one, thou it's not the appeal hearing 2morow, just get the dates ect......but been told that it won't be long till the hearing they will get it done asap. 

Posted on: June 20, 2013 - 6:00pm

Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi HELENZ, I am surprised you haven't been signposted to the Family Rights Group before, what do you think of their website/information?

Posted on: June 21, 2013 - 1:31pm

Sally W
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi Helenz, how did the hearing go on Friday?

Posted on: June 24, 2013 - 5:28pm

HELENZ

Hi, oh god it was horrable....we were in front of the judge not the magistates, n he was one nasty man, saying just as I have done x,y n z donesn't mean my son should be returned to my care, really put me down, but thank god It isn't him who is doing the appeal hearing, we don't no who It is yet, but if it was him my son would be getting adopted, BUT I WILL GIVE UP....I'LL NEVER GIVE UP, if worse case does happen they do put that placement order for him to get adopted, he's 3yrs old next month, very hard to get adopted, I can re-appy in 6mths go back to court and fight for him, I will keep on fighting till they do see sence that he is best of with his mummy.....n it's getting harder at contact, he's asking to come home with me, clinging to me, how can these people do this, when it is so clear where he is better of, ..........it's knocked me for 6 to be truthful, one day you get told that your son is coming home the next week it's going back to court, so i was on top of the world to come craching back down, BUT I'LL NEVER GIVE UP!...the appeal hearing is the 1st week of Aug, and all I keep getting told is at least it gives you more contact with your son, it won't go to monthly, and thats meant to make me feel better!!!!!!!!!! sooooooo fustrating............thanks for asking 

Posted on: June 24, 2013 - 5:49pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hello Helenz, yes it is great to be getting more time with your son but hardly any consolation when you were expecting to have got him back fulltime with you. What a horrible ordeal and now to wait for the appeal hearing, let's hope that common sense prevails. Good for you, I agree KEEP GOING with the fight!! Smile

Posted on: June 25, 2013 - 8:43am

keanekk

Hi helenz. Please don't give up we are just on the same situation. Keep having faith

Posted on: July 20, 2013 - 9:53pm

HELENZ

thanks..............i'll never stop fighting, .....i'm not going to lie & say i'm great, doing good, but since getting told he can come home then to get told s.servcies are appealing my mood has gone from a great high to a real low, i'm only just starting going out, doing things I was b4, just feels like no matter what you do, how good your doing, proving yourself it's just never enough........but thats me & how i've always dealt with things, i'll hide away then i'll bounce back which i'm starting to do.

 

to top it all of they have ajourned the appeal now from the 29th july to 23rd august yes again more time i get to spent with my son, but more time being left dangling like a carrot..............call themselfs social workers, i thought they were there to help people, all they have done for me is there " parental report" & left me with no support, nothing...........all they care about is there figures, & she doesnt want to lose her 1st case, nothing to do woth whats best for my son, his lfe, her precious job.....

Posted on: July 20, 2013 - 10:20pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

We are all rooting for you, Helenz

Posted on: July 21, 2013 - 8:09am

kiera

hi helen how are u, ive just read ur thread, ur due in court soon arnt u, hope it ghoes well, ive bin thru court a year had a contested hearing 2 weeks ago, i no court is very very stressful, 

Posted on: August 18, 2013 - 2:33pm

HELENZ

hi, Kiera, yes it's the appeal hearing wednesday afternoon, then all day thursday, ( i've already done the trial & got told my son is to be returned to me) but the LA just won't give in ( its her 1st case, its more of no wanting to lose her 1st case not how it's affecting my son, makes me so mad!!)..........but my solicitor has told me it's the best judge we cud of asked for + she's told the LA they can't appeal just coz they don't like the magistrates decision, that they have a big hill to climb!!!....i'm just praying, this past week has felt like a mth, I just want my son home, not long to go & i'll no, ...........im stressing already!! i wouldn't wish this to happen to my worse enemy!! ............thanks for ur message, 

Posted on: August 18, 2013 - 3:05pm

HELENZ

but do people no that if the worse case does happen "adoption" my barristar has toldme if my child is not adopted in 6mths, you can go back to court and try again, so if worse case does happen thursday i will be back at them courts in 6mths time, i will never stop fighting!  

Posted on: August 18, 2013 - 3:10pm

kiera

well ive bin goin thru court a year, had 5 hears plus contested hearing,my case different to urs, my ex took me court for access, it was emotionaly abusive relationship, hes not allowed any contact at all, he lied alway thru court, and tampered with drug test, plus he was vioolent to me and he denied it, in end he admitted to punching me buit stil didnt tell the truth, plus i av indefinate non mol order against him and full residency of my little girl,he as indirect contact but thru 3rd party, abd he as do loads work to prove himself and reaply to court if he does the work, case is closed, so he asnt got his way at all, judge said hes risk to my daughter til he adresses his drug issues x

Posted on: August 18, 2013 - 4:36pm

kiera

my ex was interogated my my solicter, i wasnt tho , i cried alot tht day, it lasted alday, 3 judges on panel, i didnt want se emy ex but new i had tox

Posted on: August 18, 2013 - 4:37pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Just a few more days to go, Helenz, I know time will be going very slowly for you at the moment, good luck and hopefully they will see sense

Posted on: August 18, 2013 - 4:56pm

HELENZ

thanks Louise, i no i've  waited nearly 10mths afew more days n i pray that, the appeal judge says the same "rehabilitate back home" and finally we can get on with are lives! ..........Keira has ur ex had hair strand test done, as there's no way he can tamper with them !!! the hair ones are what the LA, & courts go of, so if i was u i'd find out if he has drug issues he should be getting them done,  then  point proven he is a lier, how can what he says be taken as the truth, im just commenting on what u've just told me, i'd be on the fone asap to c if or y these hair strand test haven't been done,....n yea every case is different, but i can go back in 6 mths...............so come the end of thursday i'll be the happiest mummy alive or i'll be sad but won't give up, i'll b bk the in 6mths ............i'll let u's no.....its sooooooooo hard when my son is asking to come home, Cry 

Posted on: August 18, 2013 - 5:29pm

kiera

hi what it is  ex used a hair dye , and we no why he did tht, u get told do not put a hair dye on ur hair or colour, so they cudnt count the test, he ad to do another hair strand test, he delayed test by 5 half months, i did ahir strand test as he said i was coke head, mine was negative, ex 2nd test cum bk positive for canabis, and heavy usage as well, its all gon against him cos he lied alway thru court, and used tht hair dye tryin get test cum bk negative, x

Posted on: August 18, 2013 - 6:02pm

HELENZ

hi, well it was the "appeal" 2day, and after a long, long day, I'M THE HAPPIEST MUMMY ALIVE the appeal got thrown out, MY SON IS COMING HOME IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS :-) .........i nearly lost hope when i got told they were appealing, but pulled myself together & continued the fight, & it payed of SO DON'T GIVE UP!!! i just hope others get the great, great news i got, & get your child/ren back.........from one HAPPY HAPPY MUMMY LaughingLaughing

Posted on: August 21, 2013 - 8:36pm

HELENZ

I got told the courts always go with the LA, i'm proof they don't, when they pull u dwn u bounce back fighting even harder than u was,.........i hope to hear some "good news" more often!!! 

Posted on: August 21, 2013 - 8:42pm

kiera

hi hun aw well done, im very happy, we both got the result we wanted didnt we, im so happy for uxxx

Posted on: August 21, 2013 - 9:42pm

HELENZ

thanks, "tears" but tears of happiness xxx it's still sinking in!! xxx

Posted on: August 21, 2013 - 10:10pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

FANTASTIC NEWS! and well done to you for keeping going through all this Laughing

Posted on: August 21, 2013 - 10:34pm

HELENZ

THAKS......its been tard, but u get your strenth to keep going, & it's all paided of..........it hasnt sunk in properly yet, but seeing him 2morow ......my boys coming home to where his home is! with his mummy....1 VERY HAPPY MUMMY :-) X

Posted on: August 21, 2013 - 10:54pm

Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Awww Congratulations HELENZ, you have fought so hard. I bet you can't wait to see him tomorrow!

I guess although excited, you will have to keep a bit of a lid on it though, as he might not understand?

Posted on: August 22, 2013 - 5:03pm

HELENZ

hi Anna, i seen him today :-)........sooooooooooo wanted to tell him he's coming back home to mummys, (when he was taken he asked were r house mummy, i said "bob the builder is fixing it") i just want to tell him, its all fixed now & he'll be home very soon, but of course i didn't, he's had enough confusion, he doesn't need anymore, the day will soon come ..........the future is going to be GREAT.....i'm still on cloud 9!!!.it's been hard, emotional but it's paided of......MY SONS COMING HOMELaughing

Posted on: August 22, 2013 - 5:10pm

GoodEnoughMum
DoppleMe

Congratulations Helenz.  I'm so pleased to hear your news.

Gem

x

Posted on: August 25, 2013 - 3:54pm

HELENZ

Thanks Gem, i just can't believe it, my boy is coming home.....im on cloud 99 not cloud 9!! ,..............i almost give up hope, but i didn't i kept going, kept fighting, & it all paided i'd of............I just hope more parents get the same result, as a child should be with there parent/s x

Posted on: August 25, 2013 - 4:03pm